Wondering about discrepancies in 2019-2020 season NAC dates

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  1. ReadyFence

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    I know this will come as a shock, but it looks like there are some date discrepancies for 2019-2020 NACs on the USFA website.

    In the bid packet information, there is an extended schedule (2019-2020 all the way through 2022-2023), that indicates that all 2019-2020 events have been awarded to cities except for April Div 1 Championships (that was showing as awarded back in July but is now open again). However, two of the events (Oct and Dec) are showing different dates on the 2019-2020 tournament schedule pdf.

    Does anyone have any insight as to what we might assume is correct?

    Bid packet- https://cdn1.sportngin.com/attachme...863.550925913.1546370857-547096650.1528929820

    Tournament info- https://cdn2.sportngin.com/attachme...089.550925913.1546370857-547096650.1528929820

    And yes, I am looking ahead, scheduling is a bear in this house. Also noticed that they forgot to post the SN day schedule in December...
     
  2. Zebra

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    Sounds like time for some crowdsourced sleuthing through convention center schedules and visitors' bureau calendars. I'll check Reno....
     
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  3. Inquartata

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    Don't forget Columbus while you're at it.
     
  4. Zebra

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    Already checked. [grin]
    They don't show anything past June (typical of a lot of convention centers to not show stuff a year or more out).
     
  5. AllezCat

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    Extra special because the bid deadline for ROCs and SYCs is January 8th...
     
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  8. ReadyFence

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    Well, at least they've updated the SN page to let us know that the December 2018 posting of the day schedule can now be expected sometime in February :cool:
     
  9. mimom

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    Anyone have any luck finding locations for 19-20? Besides Milwaukee?
     
  10. imasweety

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    rumor is that Jo's is going to be in columbus next year.
     
  11. Inquartata

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    Who would be surprised? :D
     
  12. imasweety

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    one of our girls said... why are jo's always in a cold place?
     
  13. mimom

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    Right, could go a just little more south of Ohio to Lexington or Louisville. Those might be a little warmer in the winter. Kansas City was mid 70's a couple years ago which was great!
     
  14. imasweety

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    How about Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, New Orleans?
     
  15. mimom

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    Yes so many warm places but they probably all cost a lot more money to rent the venue.
     
  16. Zebra

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    And hotel costs will be higher too.
     
  17. Inquartata

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    Is that what raises hotel costs? I dunno, just about everywhere I go for NACs and SN the hotels are charging roughly similar prices. Especially going through Group Housing.

    What certainly does hike the prices is holding the competition in a smaller city with a limited number and size of hotels, or in one where there are other events being held at the same time and the demand drives the hotels to take advantage by charging more.
     
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    Kansas City seems to think the October NAC is 10/18-21/2019 (http://www.sportkc.org/events/)
     
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  19. monitorlizerd

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    Sorry I'm late to party.
    The problem with Houston is twofold...
    1) Houston Sports Authority wants lots more $$$$ than USFencing is willing/able to pay (although we have the perfect venues for a SN)
    2) they want and get those fees because Houston has no "off" season- our weather is good year round, so the convention center always has something going on.

    We'd LOVE to bring an event down here. we've been trying to for a long time. But HSA has been very short-sighted in regards to what such an event (SNs?) would bring in terms of people, full hotels, car rentals, food, tourist attraction attendance, etc. They're not willing to give USFencing a big enough break on the cost.
     
  20. Allen Evans

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    All good points. Finding locations for NAC/Nationals is usually more than just Big Enough Space = Win! There are often hotel and other arrangements to be made and for top cities, the hotels can be a real bear to negotiate with.
     

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