A another thread is : How some foil referees break rules Official rules are broken by those referees. The problem is simple * art t.83-2-d : "Actions, simple or compound, steps or feints which are executed with a bent arm, are not considered as attacks but as preparations" * art. t88 : "When compound attacks are made, the opponent has the right to stop-hit; but to be valid the stop hit must precede the conclusion of the attack by an interval of fencing time; that is to say that the stop hit must arrive before the attacker has begun the final movement of the attack". Attack on preparation and Stop hit made within a period of fencing time exist. It was, it is, judged - in the right way. Nowadays, we see fencers, going forward to get 10cm of blade in the belly, then to counter-attack. This thread is about some examples : Case n°1 - 1988 Olympics at 2min 43sec (warning : at this time, light were reversed) The referee has given point to fencer on the left: fencer on the right was doing executed several movements. When fencer on the right was hitted, he has no priority, because he didn't begin the final movement of the attack. Simple : straightening of the arm, the point aiming the valid target - and just hit! Because to parry is not possible or not useful!