No one has said that. Do you drive 2 mph? That would be MUCH safer than whatever speeds you drive now. But you don't, because there's a tradeoff between safety and actually getting things done. You're just making this up. This doesn't mean anything. I don't think that any part of this statement is supported by the evidence put forth in this thread. Your second statement doesn't follow from the first. My blade must pass a flexibility test, but that's not tested at every tournament. And that is an important safety regulation... It's not. If they could give concrete examples of why visual inspection isn't sufficient when combined with occaisional punch tests, then I'd give up the argument. But they haven't, and I suspect are unable to. What we're arguing, which is for most fencers the difference between 3-5 and 10-15 punch tests a year, isn't really a big distinction, and it's going to be hard to come up with evidence either way. I don't think this makes them wrong, but it doesn't make me wrong either. And the "combined experience" argument is wrong for the reasons I stated above. You can throw Smirnov around as much as you want (twice in this post, for example), but it's been well-established that at Smirnov's time, there were NO punch tests, the mesh was of much lower quality, and overall you're really comparing apples to oranges. I think every club should have a mask punch regardless of division standards for its fencers who do not compete, or at least for its club masks which don't go to competition. Really, Ron White reference? Really? You have, in all honesty, the worst ability to make personal attacks I have ever seen. It's like in bad movies when a kid is trying to fight an adult and the adult just holds the kids head at arm's length, while the kid flails wildly in the air. Words like "uncreative" or "immature" don't even begin to describe the failure you've exhibited at trying to attack others in this thread.