Looking for vintage barbed epee tip

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  1. Pavel M.

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    Gentlemen, i would strongly appreciated if someone could offer me such a piece for personal humble collection for fair price. Freight in Czech Republic needed, i will pay on your account in advance. Thank you so much for any response.

    https://files.fm/u/x55qqqdd#/view/item.jpg
     
  2. K O'N

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    What you're looking for is called a point d'arrêt. If you want one like you've pictured, a point d'arrêt tip that fits in an electric barrel, I wish you good luck. They're extremely rare. I've never seen one in real life, only in pictures. They were only made like that for a few years, if that was ever the competitive shape. It may be that the pictures we've seen were only prototypes or one-off tips made for some hybrid of classical and electric fencing.

    You can buy a traditional lashed-on point d'arrêt, or a screw-on version that fits on an electric epee blade, from American Fencer's Supply:

    http://www.amfence.com/html/class_parts.html

    The screw on version is not the same as your picture. It replaces the entire barrel and tip.
     
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  3. neevel

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    I don't think Matthew has American Fencers Supply back up and running from the fire as of yet, and whatever pre-fire stock that's listed on the website is now ashes and slag in a landfill.

    Rockwell Classical Fencing sells a lash-on Point d'Arret, intended to be used with a non-electric blade:
    http://www.rockwellclassicalfencing.com/point-d39arr39.html

    This is, of course, assuming Pavel is just looking for a Point d'Arret to use, and not an actual antique for the historical interest.
     
  4. Pavel M.

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    Gentlemen, thank you so much for your comments, however i do not want newly produced point d´arret (stuff like on your photo is even producible by myself i suppose), much better i wish to have original old one. By the way, here i attach another photo with three more types of old points (photo came from same collection of one famous pre-WW2 fencer here in Czech Republic, unfortunately all his stuff was thrashed after he passed) - maybe somebody would really know about some source. Am prepared to buy any of these types. Have a good time and thanks for any other ideas!
     

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  5. jjefferies

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    Those certainly wouldn't be legal today and I wonder if they ever would have been?
     
  6. Inquartata

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    Of course they were. Before electric scoring those were how epeeists marked their victims. ( In rather the same way that skunks mark theirs. ;) )
     
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    Inq, Only if you looked before you spoke. Those "appear" to be electric tips. 'course a sabreur isn't expected to be able to discern the fine details pointed weapons. ;)
     
  8. neevel

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    Ah, you're looking for old '30s vintage electric epee points (for those who don't know, the very first electric epee points had the tip shaped to resemble a Point d'Arret, before transitioning to first the 'beehive' tip and finally the flat tip we use today). Your best bet will be to patiently watch Ebay, I'm afraid.
     
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