Lesson Scam?

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  1. DLEE

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    Got texts with poor grammar and spelling wanting lesson price for 3 daughters who would be dropped off by their private van driver for private lessons for 5 weeks so they could get in shape before returning to Virginia. Lots of questions about credit card processors etc.
    Sounded like a scam to me. Anybody received a similar contact?
     
  2. Peach

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    Over the years, this one keeps popping up.
     
  3. Allen Evans

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    I get them once or twice a year. Don't reply.
     
  4. guevarragv

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    I decided one time to to mess with the sender. I caught on it was one of the spam messages about 3 messages in, I was just watching a movie I had watched before, so I had time to kill.

    The following is the conversation that transpired (I am not in Philadelphia nor in Houston)
     
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  5. Purple Fencer

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    Yeah...I’ve gotten that one as well.
     
  6. AllezCat

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    And in Seattle. The pitch we got is that they want to arrange "a surprise training" for their kids, but mom has a medical condition (sometimes two!) that prevents her from driving. So they've hired a private driver to drive the kids. Who needs to be paid in cash. So can mom pay for everything with a credit card and you please pay the driver cash when he gets there? Most likely they're using stolen credit cards.

    The scam warning signs include:
    • The second time you get this email, with a different name and email address, but nearly identical grammar and spelling mistakes
    • The request to do something that's against most merchant card agreements
    • The strange arrangements - why not a family friend to drive? Why not Uber? Why not have whoever does your grocery runs stop by an ATM to get cash for the driver?
    I guess they only need to find one gullible person to make money...
     
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  7. twisterfencing

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    I get this type of email at least 2 to 3 times a week.
    The story is: they want to buy fencing equipment for 3 to 4 fencers, wanting to know if we accept credit cards(?), how much this item is or that item.
    I just block them.
    The real scam is: when someone orders items on the web site, example: from Peru - Niger - Dominican Rep after 4 days passes, they dispute the order from the credit card company asking of for a refund. They are hoping that you have already shipped it before they open the dispute.
    What I started doing to speed up the process is: once we get the order like this from a known country that does this, send out a tracking number (fake), then a few days later, the dispute comes up and I just call our CC merchant and agree it was a bad order and make the refund. Never sent them anything. The real funny is: when you get the email from them asking why they did not get the goods? I just forward the dispute email to them and then block their IP address from our website. Reason for the block, have actually had someone try to do it twice??
    It's best to trust, but verify
    Scammers?
     
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  8. jkormann

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    Should mail them some dirty laundry.
     
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  9. Purple Fencer

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    Used diapers.
     
  10. jkormann

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    Don't put the hate on the postal or delivery worker.
     
  11. Purple Fencer

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    Meh....there are bags for vaccum sealers....
     
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  12. CrownOfCanada

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    I had a Home Inspection company as a side business for several years...and got very similar messages to this except about having several homes inspected by a mysterious person.... Pretty sure they use the same tactics and just tailor it to whatever your selling.
     
  13. jdude97

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    I'm surprised the scammers are smart enough to target fencers specifically.

    Not that it's smart to target fencers but that they'd have a scheme lined up and customized for this niche demographic.
     
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  14. Allen Evans

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    I believe this is a general "template" that gets used with any sort of skill sports. I actually first heard about it from a tennis academy.
     
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  15. twisterfencing

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    Have not thought of that but I do like it.
    A box of dirty tighty whities just might do the trick, unless,,,,, its a fake address and some poor woman in Peru gets it and opens it and,,,,,

     
  16. ladyofshalott99

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    So, complete speculation: Wondering if this might be working on some of our elder fencing coaches. Vulnerable population financially, typically the primary business/bank account owner, and if they get scammed, not likely to report it out of embarrassment. Seems that it's not a one-off thing?


    @Noodle, can we get a sticky on this thread as a PSA at the least?
     

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