History of the fleche

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  1. SaintDominique

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  2. Inquartata

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    I wouldn't have thought it would have been. Looking at old film of fencing I'm not sure that anyone ever felt the need of a way to cover distance that fast.

    Sometimes things which seem perfectly obvious at one time never occurred to people in previous times. I am given to understand that before the 20th century no one ever thought to shoot a pistol with both hands. And there's that whole pocket business.
     
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    I don’t know, defending against opponents running at you with swords goes back to at least 1815, when skilled swordsmen from the disbanded French army went around picking fights with officers of the occupying armies in France.

    “… the English fared better than the Austrians and Prussians in these so-called ‘Waterloo duels’. This was because, knowing nothing of the niceties of swordsmanship, they rushed headlong at their opponents and spitted them straight away. It was in vain that the French protested at this ‘brutal’, ‘unchivalrous’ behaviour, for the English seconds stood by with loaded pistols, and threatened to shoot anybody who attempted to intervene.” (The Duel: A History, by Robert Baldick, p. 93)

    Sounds like a flèche to me, even if they wouldn’t have called it that at the time.
     
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    That's not fleche....that's a joust on foot.
     
  5. jkormann

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    Surely you joust.
     
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  6. Inquartata

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    Now joust a minute here!
     
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    oh, thread drift. Bane of the internet.
     
  8. Inquartata

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    I believe that I have behourd of that.
     
  9. Steve Khinoy

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    A running attack isn't the same as a fleche. The running attack existed in the Renaissance, and probably long before that.
     
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  10. Inquartata

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    And yet, to the FIE the fleche is "a natural and necessary fencing action" ( because it says so ) and the running attack...is not ( because it doesn't say so ). :p
     

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