Counter-time

Discussion in 'Fencing Discussion' started by drippingwet, Dec 21, 2004.

  1. drippingwet

    drippingwet Rookie

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    Counter-time is quite interesting. If you're a good parryer, then counter-time allows you to use this strength without giving away all the initiative - you go out and find their attack rather than wait for it. I may be wrong, but Sanzo does it quite lot and it's big in the Russian game aswell.

    So were does it fit in with my attack - what's the relationship between my attack and my counter-time? For instance, do you have counter-time ready while compressing the distance into attacking distance - parry riposte if they AIP, eventually attack if they don't?

    What are your thought's on counter-time in general?
     
  2. dunastor

    dunastor Rookie

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    The key to counter-time is drawing the (counter)attack. You should attack and always be prepared for a reaction by your opponent. The distance is usually a little bigger than lunge distance. If you're at lunge distance, you should just lunge, because your opponent obviously doesn't understand the threat you are posing (or he is waiting for a parry-riposte of course...).
    Counter-time is usually applicable if you get hit with AIP a few times. To start a bout with second intention actions doesn't seem smart to me.... (unless you know a lot about your opponent already..)
     
  3. the doc

    the doc Rookie

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    dunastor makes an important point. if you can beat someone just using 5 or 15 arm extensions then you should. the other fencer should earn the right to you utilise your complex moves and fully fencing abilities on them.

    and i wouldn't worry too much about the russian game, drippingwet, as you will almost certainly never be on the receiving end of it...
     
  4. Craig

    Craig Administrator Staff Member

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    You don't escalate to the more complex actions until your opponent has demonstrated that they are ready to handle and will react to the simple actions.

    Going for a parry-ripost of the attack in preparation when you haven't yet demonstrated that you can hit with a simple attack is one of the best ways to start out a bout 0-3.

    Craig
     
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  5. Gruntled

    Gruntled Rookie

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    Just Fence You Rotten Crotch!
     

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