Club patch sizes

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  1. Purple Fencer

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    A client is asking me what the rules are for sizes of club patches on jackets . Anyone?
     
  2. dberke

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    I would expect that to fall under the publicity code, specifically p.12, which limits the size of a single logo to 125 square cm.

    Dan
     
  3. Purple Fencer

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    I thought that, but the wording reads:

    "If a federation and/or a fencer have signed a sponsorship contract with a commercial or other company, the logo of that sponsorship partner, maximum 125 cm2 in size, may be affixed at the top of the sleeve of the non-sword arm of the fencing jacket, on the side of the knickers (left or right) or on the socks."

    This is in reference to a paid sponsor...not an individual club patch, although I can see how they might be lumped together.
     
  4. EldRick

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    So you could have a club logo 3cm wide and 41cm long running down the thigh?

    Or 6cm wide running around the bicep?

    Cool...

    I love the arbitrary way the FIE comes up with these arbitrary rules that are so widely misinterpreted and ignored.
     
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  5. dberke

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    p.12.1.a reads:
    So a club patch would fall under "any name or badge other than the mark of the manufacturer or seller" and thus be considered advertising and subject to the 125 cm2 rule.

    Dan
     
  6. Privateer

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    if it's not in m.25, how can someone domestically disallow anything that's not offensive or unsafe?

    how wide is a sleeve?
     
  7. Inquartata

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    And then will probably penalize such as "violations" after the fact, just because, if the right person sees it, doesn't like it and complains.

    Because creative "interpretations" of rules are the sole prerogative of the FIE.
     
  8. Privateer

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    are we talking about someone who will likely fence abroad?
     
  9. Inquartata

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    Creative interpretations of rules are the sole prerogative of the FIE, not of US Fencing.

    Don't be difficult.
     
  10. Mac A. Bee

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    Unfortunately, I overhear US refs saying head-turning is cardable or turning one's back is called because it's dangerous rather than the epeeist-hitting-themselves raison etre.
     
  11. Inquartata

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    Oh, individual refs anywhere can go off the reservation. I'm talking about the, ah, "consensus" interpretations---the ones which come down to us from Geneva as from Sinai.
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nXeTsWGPT0w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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  13. downunder

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    What's in Geneva?
     
  14. Inquartata

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    FIE is headquartered in Lausanne, Switzerland.
     
  16. downunder

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    sigh. I was there in July. Let me have my fun.
     
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    Was quite sure you knew that's where they were, and I've been there too (cool place), just wanted a train of continuity with Inq and you.
     
  18. Inquartata

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    You are a referee. Fun is prohibited.
     
  19. Privateer

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    some pretty good shots of back-arm patches as the fencers are getting introduced. some are quite large

     
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    The ref cares only if the patch is attached in a way that it could catch the opponent's point. Contact the organizer with the image regarding the patch size, their bout committee will be the body that cares about publicity rules.
     

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