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Fencing in College – How to Get on an NCAA Fencing Team

Fencing on a collegiate team, whether it be a Division I NCAA team or an intramural club fencing program, can be a very rewarding experience. If you plan on fencing in college, it’s best to do your research on the various programs available to you at the schools where your academic interests take you. Most top tier colleges have fencing available – either as an NCAA or collegiate club program, so you don’t have to give anything up on the academic side to find fencing in college.

Men's Epee NCAA Fencer: Brian Ro

Men’s Epee NCAA Fencer: Brian Ro

Fencing on a collegiate team, whether it be a Division I NCAA team or an intramural club fencing program, can be a very rewarding experience. If you plan on fencing in college, it’s best to do your research on the various programs available to you at the schools where your academic interests take you. Most top tier colleges have fencing available – either as an NCAA or collegiate club program, so you don’t have to give anything up on the academic side to find fencing in college.

In a recent image posted on Facebook and other social media outlets, the graphic boasted the percentage of fencers moving on to participating in an NCAA collegiate fencing team was 32.3%. This was in comparison to basketball at 5.9% and football at 7.8%. The post was seen 2,948 times and shared by over 40 people. That’s viral in the fencing world. It’s also sparked some interest by students and parents about the possibilities and processes about fencing in college.

There are over 300 high school seniors currently registered as competitive members of US Fencing as of January 2014. It’s safe to assume that those fencers are competitive and looking to possibly fence in college.

According to scholarshipstats.com, the chances of a high school athlete competing in an NCAA collegiate fencing team is broken down into women and men. The following statistics are from the 2011-2012 school year. This lists the total high school age fencers and total number of fencers in an NCAA program. Note that these give a higher percentage chance of making it than is realistic as the number of high school fencers is not fully represented in the ScholarshipStats data.

Just for fun, here is what ScholarshipStats says:

-MEN: 1,925 high school fencers; 622 NCAA collegiate fencers…32.3% chance of competing in college.
-WOMEN: 1,771 high school fencers; 674 NCAA collegiate fencers…38.1% chance of competing in college.

Those are pretty good chances when you compare that percentage to other “mainstream” sports like soccer, football and basketball. All of which, for both men and women, have a percentage in the single digits to play for an NCAA college team. Fencing tops both the men and women in percentage of playing in college by a pretty wide margin.

With those statistics in mind, we spoke with a Division I NCAA fencing coach to give us some background about how to prepare, shop, apply and attend a college as a fencer. Our fencing coach noted 6 things you need to have on your to do list.

  1. Compile your academic test scores
  2. Compile your fencing results and ratings
  3. Register with the NCAA Eligibility Center
  4. Submit an athlete recruiting questionnaire
  5. Reach out to the fencing coach
  6. Plan a college visit

To elaborate, start by gathering your standardized test scores. Make sure that you meet the requirements academically to be accepted into the college. “To be frank,” says our collegiate fencing coach, “the school’s academics are usually the biggest draw for many fencers. Many of our fencers are primarily looking for academic programs that fit their interests and goals; fencing is a great added bonus.”

As a high school fencer, you need to also track and gather your results and ratings. Maintain copies of your results from local and national tournaments. These are often available at either the US Fencing website or on AskFReD.net, but don’t always count on it. It’s helpful to write down your results during the tournament, not just to assist your training, but as a hard copy of results for perspective colleges. Some coaches also request videos; you should have some videos available, either of your bouts or lessons.

The high school fencer must also visit ncaa.org and register with the NCAA eligibility center. This will be one of the athlete’s greatest tools. A fencer and/or his parents will also be able to download the College Bound Athlete’s handbook on this website. Become very familiar with this book because all NCAA coaches will adhere strictly to its guidelines.

Next, you should visit the school’s athletic website and look for the fencing program’s Athlete Recruiting Questionnaire (most programs will have such a questionnaire). Contact the school’s athletic offices and inquire about one if you can’t find it immediately. The questionnaire allow the coach to get a snapshot of your contact information, background (including other extra-curricular activities), athletic information (points you may have, athlete stats, physical data, weapons you fence, your current club and coach), and academic information (SAT and ACT scores, current grade, class rank, intended major, etc.)

Speaking of coaches, you should also reach out to the coach by e-mail and phone. Officially, the coach cannot contact you until your junior year in high school; if you e-mail prior to that year, don’t expect a response…from anyone (coaches, assistant coaches, etc.). They can speak with you if you call and they happen to pick up the phone. If you don’t immediately hear back from the coach or assistant coach when you reach out during your junior year, trust me, they are busy.

“But persistence will sometimes pay off,” notes our collegiate fencing coach. “If I have two equally good fencers that have expressed interested in fencing for our school, and one of those fencers is constantly trying to contact me, naturally, we’re going to see some determination and it may pay off. Even if it means that I’ll call you back just so you’ll stop calling me.”

You’ll also want to plan a college visit; this is part of the “shopping for college” part. Remember, you’re in college to further your education, so you’ll not be a 24 hour fencer – you’ve got to study too. You want to make sure the college also “fits” you academically, socially and even emotionally. Strongly consider academic programs, social life, dorms, and other things the school has to offer. Distance from home may be another determining factor when attending a school, as well as costs. Your potential teammates are another aspect high school fencers consider when selecting the school. Is there a specific coach you want to work with? Are there current team members you want to train with? As a high school athlete, you’ll want to make a list of what you’re looking for in your college career in addition to the fencing program prior to your visit.

There are two types of college visits: unofficial and official. These visits have to occur before July 1 at the end of senior year. In a nutshell, this is what unofficial and official visits mean:

  • Unofficial: The student/family pays for the whole trip. Travel, food, expenses…it’s all on your dime. Again, this trip is to see if the school and all its components, including the fencing program, fit your goals and personality.
  • Official: The University pays for everything. Be prepared with your transcripts, test scores, travel itinerary, NCAA eligibility, etc. This visit is usually when the coach is going to make the hard sell to you. It’s when they are saying “we’re committed to you”. However, more coaches now are only utilizing the official visit when you’ve already been accepted into the college.

Contact the school’s athletic compliance staff and ask about the recruiting process if you have any questions about what you can and cannot do during your visits. All coaches will know and follow all NCAA guidelines.

It was difficult to determine how many fencers with USA Fencing national points actually continued to college. Needless to say, your chances of entering a top NCAA collegiate fencing program like Columbia, Penn State, Princeton, Notre Dame, Harvard, Stanford, St. John’s or UPenn are pretty decent if you have points and the high school academic fortitude to be accepted into the college.

In non- revenue producing sports such as fencing, the amount of scholarship money available is considerably less. There are several discussions online about fencing scholarships. In short, don’t count on it unless you’re on a national team, stateside or other. “Unless you’re in the top 20 on the points list, don’t count on a scholarship,” notes our fencing coach.

If you’ve got the athletic chutzpah, but are a little short on your academics, don’t discount yourself out of your desired collegiate program yet, this where you’ll need to communicate to the coach. If you have what the coach wants and needs, coaches have some pull with admission assistance, especially if you also run into out of state admission caps.

However, let’s assume that you’re an average fencer, perhaps have a C rating, often fencing in Div II and Div III competitions and is interested in fencing for an NCAA team. There are still a lot of programs offering NCAA fencing – 42 NCAA collegiate fencing programs to be exact. Some with teams with fairly large rosters; New York University, for example, has 31 men and 25 woman fencers. Don’t discount participating on a DIV II and DIV III collegiate program; they are very active in the college fencing circuits.

Several other teams have walk-on programs. Brown and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill both have walk-on programs. Applying for a college with potential fencing walk-on programs may also increase your chances of getting on the team. Even if you don’t get into an NCAA program there are many universities that have active club programs.

As you begin to shop for college and look into becoming a student athlete, you have to make a list of priorities. Keep in mind that many fencers are looking, if not as much as, but more of what the university can provide academically than athletically. Students are recommended to start on the 6 steps for preparing to be a college athlete, especially registering with the NCAA eligibility center and downloading the athletes handbook. Best of luck with your college and fencing endeavors!

Update: The NCAA published their 2015-2016 guide for college-bound athletes: LINK

And to help you on your way, here are some listings of the NCAA Programs:

Men’s NCAA Programs

CollegeWeb Site
Boston Collegehttp://www.bceagles.com/sports/m-fenc/bc-m-fenc-body.html
Brandeis Universityhttp://www.brandeisjudges.com/sports/mfencing/index
Brown Universityhttp://www.brownbears.com/sports/c-fenc/index/
California Institute of Technologyhttp://www.gocaltech.com/sports/fencing/index
Cleveland State Universityhttp://www.csuvikings.com/sports/c-fenc/clst-c-fenc-body.html
Columbia Universityhttp://www.gocolumbialions.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=9600&SPID=4049&SPSID=45279
Drew Universityhttp://www.drewrangers.com/index.aspx?path=mfence&tab=fencing
Duke Universityhttp://www.goduke.com/fencing
Harvard Universityhttp://www.gocrimson.com/sports/mfencing/index
Haverford Collegehttp://www.haverfordathletics.com/sports/mfencing/index
Hunter Collegehttp://www.huntercollegeathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfence
Johns Hopkins Universityhttp://www.hopkinssports.com/sports/m-fenc/jhop-m-fenc-body.html
Lafayette Collegehttp://www.goleopards.com/sports/c-fenc/lafa-c-fenc-body.html
Lawrence Universityhttp://www.lawrence.edu/athletics/fencing/
Massachusetts Institute of Technologyhttp://mitathletics.com/sports/m-fenc/index
New Jersey Institution of Techonologyhttp://www.njithighlanders.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfence
New York Universityhttp://www.gonyuathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfence
Ohio State Universityhttp://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/c-fenc/osu-c-fenc-body.html
Pennsylvania State Universityhttp://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-fenc/psu-m-fenc-body.html
Princeton Universityhttp://www.goprincetontigers.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10600&SPID=4262&SPSID=46855
Sacred Heart Universityhttp://www.sacredheartpioneers.com/sports/m-fenc/index
St. John's University (New York)http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/c-fenc/stjo-c-fenc-body.html
Stanford Universityhttp://www.gostanford.com/sports/c-fenc/stan-c-fenc-body.html
Stevens Instituite of Technologyhttp://www.stevensducks.com/index.aspx?tab=mensfencing2&path=mfence
U.S. Air Force Academyhttp://www.goairforcefalcons.com/sports/c-fenc/afa-c-fenc-body.html
University of California San Diegohttp://www.ucsdtritons.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=5800&SPID=11061&SPSID=93257
University of Detroit Mercyhttp://www.detroittitans.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfen
University of North Carolinahttp://www.goheels.com/SportSelect.dbml?SITE=UNC&DB_OEM_ID=3350&SPID=12983&SPSID=667892
University of Notre Damehttp://www.und.com/sports/c-fenc/nd-c-fenc-body.html
University of Pennsylvaniahttp://www.pennathletics.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=1700&SPID=607&SPSID=10605
Vassar Collegehttp://www.vassarathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfence
Wayne State University (Michigan)http://wsuathletics.com/index.aspx?path=mfence&tab=0
Yale Universityhttp://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-fenc/index
Yeshiva Universityhttp://www.yumacs.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=mfence

Women’s NCAA Programs

CollegeWeb Site
Boston Collegehttp://www.bceagles.com/sports/w-fenc/bc-w-fenc-body.html
Brandeis Universityhttp://www.brandeisjudges.com/sports/wfencing/index
Brown Universityhttp://www.brownbears.com/sports/c-fenc/index
California Institute of Technologyhttp://www.gocaltech.com/sports/fencing/index
City College of New Yorkhttp://www.ccnyathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=wfence
Cleveland State Universityhttp://www.csuvikings.com/sports/c-fenc/clst-c-fenc-body.html
Columbia University-Barnard Collegehttp://www.gocolumbialions.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=9600&SPID=4049&SPSID=45279
Cornell Universityhttp://www.cornellbigred.com/index.aspx?path=fencing&tab=1
Drew Universityhttp://www.drewrangers.com/index.aspx?path=wfence&tab=fencing2
Duke Universityhttp://www.goduke.com/fencing
Farliegh Dickingson Universityhttp://fduknights.com/index.aspx?path=wfence&
Harvard Universityhttp://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wfencing/index
Haverford Collegehttp://www.haverfordathletics.com/sports/wfencing/index
Hunter Collegehttp://www.huntercollegeathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing2&path=wfence
Johns Hopkins Universityhttp://www.hopkinssports.com/sports/w-fenc/jhop-w-fenc-body.html
Lawrence Universityhttp://www.lawrence.edu/athletics/fencing/
Massachusetts Institute of Technologyhttp://mitathletics.com/sports/w-fenc/index
New Jersey Institution of Techonologyhttp://www.njithighlanders.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing2&path=wfence
New York Universityhttp://www.gonyuathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing2&path=wfence
Northwestern Universityhttp://www.nusports.com/sports/w-fenc/nw-w-fenc-body.html
Ohio State Universityhttp://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/sports/c-fenc/osu-c-fenc-body.html
Princeton Universityhttp://www.goprincetontigers.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10600&SPID=4273&SPSID=46899
Queen's College (New York)http://www.queensknights.com/sports/fencing/index
Sacred Heart Universityhttp://www.sacredheartpioneers.com/sports/w-fenc/index
Stanford Universityhttp://www.gostanford.com/sports/c-fenc/stan-c-fenc-body.html
Stevens Instituite of Technologyhttp://www.stevensducks.com/index.aspx?tab=womensfencing2&path=wfence
Temple Univeristyhttp://www.owlsports.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing&path=wfence
Tufts Universityhttp://www.gotuftsjumbos.com/sports/wfencing/index
U.S. Air Force Academyhttp://www.goairforcefalcons.com/sports/c-fenc/afa-c-fenc-body.html
University of California San Diegohttp://www.ucsdtritons.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=5800&SPID=11061&SPSID=93257
University of Detroit Mercyhttp://www.detroittitans.com/index.aspx?tab=fencing2&path=wfen
University of North Carolina Chapel Hillhttp://www.goheels.com/SportSelect.dbml?SITE=UNC&DB_OEM_ID=3350&SPID=12983&SPSID=667892
University of Notre Damehttp://www.und.com/sports/c-fenc/nd-c-fenc-body.html
University of Pennsylvaniahttp://www.pennathletics.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=1700&SPID=608&SPSID=10717
Vassar Collegehttp://www.vassarathletics.com/index.aspx?tab=_fencing&path=wfence
Wayne State University (Michigan)http://wsuathletics.com/index.aspx?path=wfence&tab=1
Wellesley Collegehttp://www.wellesleyblue.com/sports/wfencing/index
Yale Universityhttp://www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/w-fenc/index
Yeshiva Universityhttp://www.yumacs.com/index.aspx?tab=_fencing&path=wfence

Collegiate Fencing Clubs

CollegeWeb Site
Allegheny Collegehttp://alleghenygators.com/sports/2010/4/19/Int_0419103939.aspx?id=171
Amarillo Collegehttp://www.acfencers.com/
Appalachian State Universityhttp://www.asufencing.com
Arizona State Universityhttp://www.asufencingclub.com
Augustana Collegehttp://www.augustana.edu/x20800.xml
Ball State Universityhttp://bsufc.iweb.bsu.edu/
Bates Collegehttp://www.bates.edu/pe/academics/club-sports-teams/
Baylor Universityhttp://www.baylor.edu/studentorgs/index.php?id=48049&orgCode=FEN
Beloit Collegehttp://blink.beloit.edu/organization/fencingclub
Boston Universityhttp://blogs.bu.edu/bufence/
Bowdoin Collegehttp://students.bowdoin.edu/fencing/
California Polytechnichttp://www.calpolyfencing.com
Carnegie Mellon Universityhttp://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/fencing/
Catholic University of Americahttp://cua.campusgroups.com/fencing
Clemson Universityhttp://www.clemson.edu/Fencers/
Colby Collegehttp://www.colby.edu/campus_cs/clubs/fencing/
College of William and Maryhttp://wmfencing.wix.com/wmfencing
Dartmouth Collegehttp://www.dartmouth.edu/~fencing
Denison Universityhttp://denisonbigred.com/clubandimsports/clubsports/fencing
Eastern Kentucky Universityhttp://campusrec.eku.edu/sport-club-contacts
Emory Universityhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/8336220355/verifyID=0B93EDBACA28EC2D6E8689F6B47F8B90
Portand State Universityhttp://www.fencing.groups.pdx.edu
University of Houstonhttp://www.uhrecreation.com/asc/fencing
Florida State Universityhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/2204346027/
Fulton-Montgomery Community Collegehttp://faculty.fmcc.suny.edu/mcdarby/Pages/Fencing_Club/InfoSheet.htm
Furman Universityhttps://orgsync.com/59331/chapter
Georgia Institute of Technologyhttp://www.yellowjacketfencing.com
Georgia Southern Universityhttps://sites.google.com/site/gasoufencing/
Goucher Collegehttp://students.goucher.edu/fenceclub.index.hrml
George Washington Universityhttp://gwfencingclub.blogspot.com/
Humboldt State Universityhttp://humboldt.edu/clubs/club_sites/fencing
Idaho State Universityhttp://fencing.computersart.net/
Indiana Universityhttp://www.indiana.edu/~fencing/
Indiana University of Pennsylvaniahttp://iupfencing.wordpress.com/
Iowa State Universityhttp://www.fencing.stuorg.iastate.edu/
James Madison Universityhttp://info.jmu.edu/fencingclub/
Kansas Universityhttp://groups.ku.edu/~fencing/
Kennesaw Statehttp://www.ksuclubsports.com/news/2011/3/1/fencing_intro.aspx
Kent State Universityhttp://www.facebook.com/KSUFencing
Las Positas Collegehttp://lpc1.clpccd.cc.ca.us/lpc/rheinheimer/fencing.html
Lehigh Universityhttp://www.lehighsports.com/info/im_club/descrips.aspx#Fencing_Club
Marist Collegehttp://clubs.marist.edu/fencing/
Miami Univeristy of Ohiohttp://www.orgs.muohio.edu/mufencing/
Middle Tennessee State Universityhttp://mtsu.edu/camprec/clubs/Clubsinfo.php#fencing
Millersville Universityhttps://involved.millersville.edu/organization/fencing
Milwaukee School of Engineeringhttp://www.go-raiders.com/inside/club_sports
Montana State Universityhttp://bozeman-fencing.org
Michigan Technological Universityhttp://www.involvement.mtu.edu/organization/fencing-club
Mt. Holyoke Collegehttp://www.mtholyoke.edu/org/fencing/Fencing/Welcome.html
Murray State Universityhttp://www.murraystate.edu/Campus/orgsRecreation/sportsRecWellness/sportClubs.aspx
National Intercollegiate Women's Fencing Associationhttp://www.niwfa.com
North Carolina State Universityhttps://orgsync.com/4419/chapter
Northern Illinois Universityhttps://sites.google.com/site/niufencingclub/
Oberlin Collegehttp://www.ocflamingblades.com
Oneonta Statehttp://www.oneonta.edu/development/clubs/fencing/default.asp
Purdue Universityhttp://web.ics.purdue.edu/~fencing/
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institutehttp://fencing.union.rpi.edu/
Rutgers Universityhttp://www.sportclubs.rutgers.edu/Content/Fencing.asp
Smith Collegehttp://sophia.smith.edu/hellsbelles
SUNY Stony Brookhttp://stonybrook.collegiatelink.net/organization/FencingClub
Swarthmore Collegehttp://orgs.sccs.swarthmore.edu/swatfencing/
Texas A&M Universityhttp://fencing.tamu.edu/
Texas State University-San Marcoshttp://www.campusrecreation.txstate.edu/fencing
Texas Tech Universityhttp://www.depts.ttu.edu/recsports/sportclubs/clubs/Fencing.php
Tulane Universityhttp://www.tulane.edu/~tufence/
UCLAhttp://www.studentgroups.ucla.edu/fencing
US Military Academy - West Pointhttp://www.usma.edu/dca/SitePages/Club_fenc.aspx
United States Naval Academyhttp://www.usna.edu/FencingClub/
University of California - Berkeleyhttp://fencing.berkeley.edu/
University of California - Irvinehttp://www.clubs.uci.edu/fencing/
University of Chicagohttp://fencing.uchicago.edu/
University of Coloradohttp://www.colorado.edu/studentgroups/fencingclub
University of Idahohttp://www.uiweb.uidaho.edu/student_orgs/fencingclub/
University of Illinoishttp://www.thepointfencingclub.com/index.php/component/content/article/6-stories/11-fencing-illini
University of Floridahttp://www.floridafencing.info/
University of Marylandhttp://www.umdfencing.com/
University of Massachusetts-Amhersthttp://www.umass.edu/rso/fencing/
University of Minnesotahttp://www.umnfencing.org/
University of Nevada-Renohttps://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_102294026510341
University of Northern Coloradohttps://www.facebook.com/unco.bears.fencing
University of Southern Californiahttp://www-scf.usc.edu/~fencing/
University of Tennesseehttp://web.utk.edu/~fencing
University of Texas-Austinhttp://www.utexasfencing.org/
University of Vermonthttp://thelynx.collegiatelink.net/organization/uvm-fencing
University of Virginiahttp://atuva.student.virginia.edu/organization/virginiafencingclub
University of Washingtonhttp://students.washington.edu/fencing/
University of Wisconsinhttp://win.wisc.edu/organization/fencing/about
Univerity of Wyominghttps://www.facebook.com/groups/UWfencing/
Virginia Techhttp://www.fencing.org.vt.edu/
Washington State Universityhttp://53398.orgsync.com/org/wsufencingclub
West Virginia Universityhttp://fencingclub.studentorgs.wvu.edu/
Worcester Polytechnic Institutehttp://users.wpi.edu/~fencing/
Xavier Universityhttp://www.xavier.edu/clubsports/fencing/index.cfm

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