Flickety-split

[NSXER]

When and if the flick goes away, where will your game be? Are you a one- trick pony?

[laughingduelist]

Everyone will have to switch to epee! Hahahahah

[dekko]

You're right, there's no flicking in epee!!!

[D'Artag-NOT]

I don't flick. No problem.

[broncofencer]

If you take away the weakest aspect of my foil game I will be a better foil fencer for it but I will still like Epee better

[ThaProfessor12]

I flick alot but now im only practicing my point , why waste time if they might get rid of it and if they dont my point game will just have gotten alot better

[edew]

You can't remove flicking from the game. There is no way the point knows that it's being depressed via a flick versus a thrust. You'll need stress analyzers on the blade to determine that it's bent so far, that it's bent due to a momentum change and not from hitting a solid target, and so on.

[Morion]

I thought they were going to eliminate the flick by increasing the amount of time the tip has to be depressed, so the quick snap of a flick wouldn't register.

[Boo Boo]

Weak/lucky flicks will not register - good, solid, hard flicks will...

Boo

[RebelFencer]

I've just started using flicks, but still rely on other methods of scoring. Luckily for me my coach showed me how a "real" flick will still register as opposed to the whips that some people do. Whether or not I'll make use of the flick is yet to be seen.

[Aeric]

Maybe I can start winning in foil again by stop-thrusting, instead of losing to the "arm-behind-head-gains-right-of-way crap". It will just be one light for me, mwahaha.

But I'm sticking to Epee for now. Don't have to deal with those flawed humans as directors.

[Tireur]

I've just started using flicks, but still rely on other methods of scoring

Wow! So you "still rely" on "other methods". God, from listening to most people in this group, I didn't think there were "other methods" anymore.

What are you gonna do without the flick? Where will your game go? Will I have to switch weapons? How can they do this to me?


Give me a break.........

[RAF.]

Originally posted by Tireur
Wow! So you "still rely" on "other methods". God, from listening to most people in this group, I didn't think there were "other methods" anymore.

What are you gonna do without the flick? Where will your game go? Will I have to switch weapons? How can they do this to me?


Give me a break.........

Hey dude, I'm with you!! You've got to learn to walk before you run. You've got to learn to fence before you can flick, properly that is, this whippy s**t is for rank amatures. Flicking is not fencing!!
Oh btw, yeah, do I flick, but it took years to perfect it!

[telkanuru]

And there is flicking in epee. I have bruses from all the incompetents who tried it on me (they have larger ones, in more sensitive areas; not that I'm vengeful or anything). Harder to do, yes. Impossible, no. Just get your hand stronger. The flick will not disappear from foil, just become less used. After all, it does have its uses, it's just currently over-used.

[dparky14]

the worst part about flicking, is that most directors, especially where i am from call the flick as right of way, so i then end up flicking when i would prefer not to. Sometimes its the only way to get the point, yet its so much more satisfying to hit with a straight attack

[Inquartata]

The flick is just a sabre cut writ small, you can all switch over to sabre and continue doing it to your heart's content...

I've watched bouts in tournaments where one or more fencers did nothing BUT flicks. Literally, nothing else. Sad...

[labouche]

Originally posted by Inquartata
The flick is just a sabre cut writ small, you can all switch over to sabre and continue doing it to your heart's content...

I've watched bouts in tournaments where one or more fencers did nothing BUT flicks. Literally, nothing else. Sad...

Yeah, that's quite sad...it sounds like good y-14 fencing. I say good because they've learned how to flick really well by then and because of that it's all they do. It seems like that doesn't a lot until junior.
-la bouche

[D'Artagnan1673]

Originally posted by telkanuru
And there is flicking in epee. I have bruses from all the incompetents who tried it on me (they have larger ones, in more sensitive areas; not that I'm vengeful or anything). Harder to do, yes. Impossible, no. Just get your hand stronger. The flick will not disappear from foil, just become less used. After all, it does have its uses, it's just currently over-used.

I agree, in fact, I think I was flicking quite well this weekend. If I was doing what I think I was doing, I was parrying contra de sixte, and then flicking to the forearm... it was quite satisfactory. In many ways more so than a straight thrust because its suppost to be difficult to perform.

[JAySE SUiCiDE]

Originally posted by labouche
Yeah, that's quite sad...it sounds like good y-14 fencing. I say good because they've learned how to flick really well by then and because of that it's all they do. It seems like that doesn't a lot until junior.
-la bouche

teehee..guess i fall a bit victim to that..

also, some of the younger junior/cadet fencers..15,16..*some* of them i say, cause i know you dont do all flicks, but there are other junior/cadet fencers who do..

~Jes

[Joan of Ark]

Originally posted by telkanuru
And there is flicking in epee.

I used it once. Perfectly. I've never practiced it, never even wanted to use it. After the bout the guy asked if I'd ever done sabre or foil. He says he has never seen and epeeist do a flick. I guess he doesn't get out often, 'cause there ARE lots of flicks in epee.