sabre flunge?

[deadly lefty]

I just started fencing sabre after a few years of foil and I always hear about a "flunge". could anyone be kind enough to explain?

[Jason]

The "flunge" is just the sabre version of a fleche. That is, you fleche without crossing your feet. Yury Gelman used to take credit for coining the term, though I don't how true that is. In other languages, it's often still called "fleche" or a "sabre fleche".

[whtouche]

A flunge is the sabre fencers answer to the fleche. When the passe avant was removed from sabre, back..whenever, the flunge was developed as an agressive move to take it's place. There are many different ways it can be done, it's basically a flying attack where you jump at your opponant rather than running at them. It's much more a horizontal than a vertical jump however, so don't jump straight in the air
A good way opf explaining the mechanics of it is like this:

Come on guard, and take a small half lunge with your front foot, just barely bigger than an advance, but make sure you straighten your back leg. From this position push off with your back and front legs, ideally propelling you slightly up and forward. It helps if after the half-lunge you turn your back foot so it is facing forward to use it as kindof a springboard.

[The0ne]

Basically the coolest peice of footwork know to the human race.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Here is an example of a Flunge

[retardedspleen]

Originally posted by KShan5[PrFC]
Here is an example of a Flunge

lol prep heaven


Chris Triplett

[deadly lefty]

ahh my foil fleche is a lot like the flunge thanks guys

[Army Fencer]

Originally posted by KShan5[PrFC]
Here is an example of a Flunge

Was that picture taken at RMC?

[KShan5[PrFC]]

uhhhhhhh dunno. I know it is Rod Meagher, that's about it.

[westcoastsabre]

That flunge could be the coolest fencing related thing I've ever seen.

[Inquartata]

This is where I add that a friend of mine "invented" the flunge on his own ( before having seen or heard of it elsewhere, that is ) and dubbed it "the flying weasel"...

The Super Sabreman photo does indeed look like he's preparing like crazy. Oddly, though, it doesn't seem exploitable when you're on the receiving end....you can wave your refused arm around for what seems like an eternity while flunging, and never get stopped.

[Tireur]

That flunge could be the coolest fencing related thing I've ever seen.

Cool? Way up in the air with his weapon cocked like a sledgehammer???

[whtouche]

Originally posted by Tireur
Cool? Way up in the air with his weapon cocked like a sledgehammer???

Yup.

[Tireur]

How is bad fencing cool?

[nahouw]

A flunge is the same as a fleche --it is a timing action, based upon the recognition of an opportunity when you are not on the right foot to lunge -- the only thing being different is with the level of body control involved. In a fleche, in order to maintain body balance, the front foot crosses; in a flunge, the fencer is able to control his body to keep his foot from crossing.

In epee, the same dynamic occurs when the same bad timing opportunity presents itself -- however, the eppeist can resolve this by 2 ways: either to fleche, or to redouble.

[whtouche]

Originally posted by Tireur
How is bad fencing cool?

The concept of "Prep bad!" is very newbie-ish and I hope you're not serious.
Do you really need it explained to you?

[Hurriranger]

how exactly do u land the flunge?

[Tireur]

The concept of "Prep bad!" is very newbie-ish and I hope you're not serious.

I was referring to the specific photo. Someone said it was the "coolest thing ever". Perhaps I do need it explained to me.

I don't see how being up in the air (if you accept this flunge thing, surely you do it forward, not up) with your weapon cocked back over your shoulder (like a rank beginner) is cool. To think this is a "cool" action is, to me, "newbie-ish".

Perhaps it's the photo, maybe it looked completely different if you were there, but, I doubt it.

[prototoast]

Originally posted by Hurriranger
how exactly do u land the flunge?

As the name suggests, in a perfect world it would often be landing in some form of a lunge. In practice, landing it is often however you can without crossing over.

[oiuyt]

Why would you possibly try to land it in anything vaguely resembling a lunge position? That would require a massive, mid-air weight shift backwards. When you land your center of gravity should still be well forward of your front leg (which requires either the leg cross in a fleche or the hopping finish of a flunge).

-B :)