01-03-2004, 09:18 PM
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#1 | | Just Joined
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| Pictures on the back of my fencing jacket? Can I put pics on the back of my fencing jacket? Or is that against regulations? It's nothing obscene, only a warning label that says:"warning guy with sword".
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01-03-2004, 09:26 PM
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| im no armourer or ref but i would say no. I believe the rules say u cant have more than 300 square cm on ur jaccket at a time,but thats for patches not pictures, i would talk to someone else such as ur coach, master armouer, or high level ref before for u do it. |
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01-03-2004, 09:47 PM
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| I just checked the rule book as of 2002, and i quote "The surface area for advertising is increased 75 cm2 per logo (four logos, in total 300 cm2); allowable area is extended to the collar of the fencing suit. A diagram will be provided showing the authorized locations and dimensions." Thats all it says so with that i would say no only thing on the back of my jacket that i would have is my last name. hope this helps. No diagram was found.
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01-06-2004, 09:45 AM
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| Re: Pictures on the back of my fencing jacket? Quote: Originally posted by Draconis Can I put pics on the back of my fencing jacket? Or is that against regulations? It's nothing obscene, only a warning label that says:"warning guy with sword".
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haha, kinda "cartoon".actually if you want your jacket to be like that,it'll be kinda odd,maybe by writing some words there is ok?or take a plain white t-shirt and wear it on outside the jacket??hahaha.. 
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01-06-2004, 05:03 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
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| pictures v color? USFA & FIE need to decide what is legal and not legal and put it in the rules. Painted masks? Colored uniforms? Logos? Sponsors? I know some of it is in the publicity section but that is just a recap of the IOC publicity restrictions for the Olympics. We've all seen the world cup and world championship fencers with logos and such that DO NOT comply with the current rules.
That all being said. I'm still waiting for someone to try and give me grief about my Lamee. (I have a spare just in case)
See attached.
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01-06-2004, 05:15 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Re: pictures v color? Quote:
[i]Originally posted by R. Exnicios
See attached.
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| hmm...its hard to tell....
lemme guess.... you're American? |
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01-06-2004, 05:22 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| Re: Re: pictures v color? Quote: Originally posted by Artisan hmm...its hard to tell....
lemme guess.... you're American? | Mostly
But if I could have gotten a Bourbon Street sign on there I would have considered it  |
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01-06-2004, 06:48 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| Honesly I don't see anything wrong with your lame. I rather like it. That being said it goes against the tradition all white uniform!  heh, wait, its silver already....
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01-06-2004, 09:46 PM
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#9 | | Fencing Expert
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| *sigh*
this is one of the biggest misconceptions out there: Quote: Publicity Code
The mark is the name or badge which identifies the origin, the manufacturer or the seller of a particular piece of the fencer’s equipment.
As soon as the mark exceeds the normal or authorised dimensions, it becomes an advertisement and comes under the jurisdiction of the regulation below (cf.Chapter IV, section C).
| so long as it doesn't advertise anything, or contravene any of the other rules, it is ok |
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01-06-2004, 10:12 PM
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#10 | | Armorer
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| Yes it is! By you quoting the rule 'which identifies the origin, the manufacturer or the seller of a particular piece of the fencer’s equipment', you are saying if the fencer would have a Mercedes Benz patch that would not be consider advertisement. I don't think so.
He is advertising something. The United States! They say nothing about commercial advertising. If the FIE wanted to ban the skulls on any mask, they could very easily. Has anyone ever heard of death cigarettes. Their logo is a skull and since you can't advertise any tobacco or alchohol products. . .
What that rule is about is the clothing manufacturers have a limit to how big they can make their 'mark' on the clothing. If it is smaller, it does not count against the advertisement limit. Everything else is considered part of the advertisement. The Flag even though you see the German's flout the rules is illegal for two reason, location M25.3 as well as size.
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01-06-2004, 11:12 PM
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#11 | | Fencing Expert
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| oh i wasn't talking about a flag... i've got a different opinion on that altogether...
i was answering the original thread about the warning sign or whatever it was |
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01-06-2004, 11:25 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| Hey that was my point Quote: Originally posted by DHCJr Yes it is! By you quoting the rule 'which identifies the origin, the manufacturer or the seller of a particular piece of the fencer’s equipment', you are saying if the fencer would have a Mercedes Benz patch that would not be consider advertisement. I don't think so.
He is advertising something. The United States! They say nothing about commercial advertising. If the FIE wanted to ban the skulls on any mask, they could very easily. Has anyone ever heard of death cigarettes. Their logo is a skull and since you can't advertise any tobacco or alchohol products. . .
What that rule is about is the clothing manufacturers have a limit to how big they can make their 'mark' on the clothing. If it is smaller, it does not count against the advertisement limit. Everything else is considered part of the advertisement. The Flag even though you see the German's flout the rules is illegal for two reason, location M25.3 as well as size. | Wow, you just made my point. Excellent! |
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01-07-2004, 08:40 PM
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#13 | | Senior Member
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| does that mean i was right? |
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01-08-2004, 10:12 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by fencinman89 does that mean i was right? | Mostly. The manufacturers mark does count against the total for the Olympics.
Marks approval and advertising at Olympics is very complicated; it varies from year to year event to event depending on who has the most lawyers. In Atlanta every event had at least one lawyer to monitor advertising and such. Really a bit silly.
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01-08-2004, 10:15 PM
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#15 | | Armorer
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| In '84, we had to tape over the Uhlmann name on the reels. It looked so 'Professional' with the tape slapped on.
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