What's in a name

[frenzl]

Originally posted by Lee Yue Yang
Happy New Year.Speaking of names,have you noticed how many guys by the name of Michael always seem to be somebody?Michael Schumacher,Michael Jordan,Michael Johnson,Michael Jackson just to name a few.

yeah the name michael is probably the best name in the world. You shoudl just assume that if you meet some one named mike that they are going to be the coolest person you met.

ONe more name you forgot was mike frentzel the number one rated epee and foil fencer in the world. - oh wait thats not until about another 10 years.

[Squall_Leonhart]

The guy Tupac actually got his name from a Native American with Incan roots, named Tupac Amaru aka Condocanqui, Jose Gabriel.
The name Ashanti (the singer) comes from an empire off the Gold Coast called Asante, of the Akan people.

[Inquartata]

Originally posted by frenzl
yeah the name michael is probably the best name in the world. You shoudl just assume that if you meet some one named mike that they are going to be the coolest person you met.

George Michael?
Michael Moore?
Michael Jackson?

[pkt]

Originally posted by Louweasel
...or at least on this thread, must be down to me.

My surname is Parry.

All bow in deference!!!

Parry without riposte is ... I better stop there...

PK

[pkt]

Originally posted by Black Jeebus
My name is Ross. I'm named after my grandfather who's last name is Ross. I'm sure someone lives who isn't, but most Ross' (I mean the last name) are Scottish.

What does "Ross" mean in Scottish?
I know Munroe means "mountain" or small mmountain...

PK

[Black Jeebus]

Honestly, I have no idea, and oddly enough I never thought to look it up. I think I might now thanks PK. Also do you mean Gaelic?

[Louweasel]

Originally posted by pkt
Parry without riposte is ... I better stop there...

PK

What? Don't understand.
Are you being mean to me?

[pkt]

Originally posted by Louweasel
What? Don't understand.
Are you being mean to me?

NO! I wouldn't think of it.
Since I have to be succint, I'll go one step further and hope you get the gist...
Parry without riposte is like Britney Spears' marriage:
Annulled without cosummation.

If you don't get there kind of simile, what more can I say?

PK

[Black Jeebus]

where did you find out munroe meant mountain. i have been looking for a gaelic definition of ross. the only definition i can find is one that says ross are these two and i don't know if they are gaelic definitions or not.

ross

\Ross\; 115), n. [Etymol. uncertain.] The rough, scaly matter on the surface of the bark of trees. [Prov. Eng. & Local, U.S.]


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


ross

\Ross\, v. t. To divest of the ross, or rough, scaly surface; as, to ross bark. [Local, U.S.]


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

[pkt]

Originally posted by Black Jeebus
Honestly, I have no idea, and oddly enough I never thought to look it up. I think I might now thanks PK. Also do you mean Gaelic?

As I keep saying, I'm an ESL-person... Yes, I do mean Gaelic.

Most names do have meanings. e.g.
~ John (Hebrew) and all the varaiants of it means "God is good."
~ Joseph (Hebrew) God shall give a son, in reference to Jehova's promise to Moses in spite of his and his wife Sarah who did not produce a son till she was in her 80s, but by that time Moses had another son by his second wife. Thus was born the conflict between the Jews and the Arabs.
~ Job (Hebrew) Persecuted.

I couldn't find Parry in the name dictionary I have. Most likely it was a lastname adopted as a first name. Parry of course means "to ward off, to avoid or evade"... Hence our defensive movement's name.

PK

[pkt]

A couple of funny coincident names:

Goalie for the Florida Pather Hockey team:
Steve Shields...

Spokesman for the Cdn Aquaculture industry which's been in a lot of hot water becuase of the recent publication of more carcinogen, e.g. PCB, in farmed fishes - including Atlantic salmon (vs wild salmon) -vs wild fishes:
David Rideout
I'm sure the aquaculture industry want to RIDE OUT the hoopla caused by this research...afterall, whales, which are at the peak of the oceanic food chain, are known to be like swimming toxic dumps...

pk

[Soldier]

Originally posted by pkt
As I keep saying, I'm an ESL-person... Yes, I do mean Gaelic.

Most names do have meanings. e.g.
~ John (Hebrew) and all the varaiants of it means "God is good."
~ Joseph (Hebrew) God shall give a son, in reference to Jehova's promise to Moses in spite of his and his wife Sarah who did not produce a son till she was in her 80s, but by that time Moses had another son by his second wife. Thus was born the conflict between the Jews and the Arabs.
~ Job (Hebrew) Persecuted.

I couldn't find Parry in the name dictionary I have. Most likely it was a lastname adopted as a first name. Parry of course means "to ward off, to avoid or evade"... Hence our defensive movement's name.

PK

I think, for the second one about sons, you're talking about Abraham, not Moses...

[pkt]

I stand corrected. Brain fade. I had to look up Sarah's name while writing that reply.

Now, what are the names of the two sons and the name of the mother of all Arabs.

This was all in the news recenty; you don't have to be a biblical scholar or a particularly religious person of any of the Judeo-Christian or Muslim faith to know the answers to these question.

[I told you I had brain-fade... I couldn't recall. I most prob. can remember all these in the morning.]



OK, the internet is fantastic:
Abram's wife's name was Sarai which was later changed in the Bible to Sarah. His was changed to Abraham. [Continuity problem.]

God's promise to Abe & Sarai was that "He [God] would make of him a great nation and that He would bless those who blessed him and curse those who cursed him."

The servant's name was Hagar. Her son's name was Ismael.
Abraham & Sarah's son, born after Ismael, was Issac.

So right there, you have a major problem:
Hagar thought Ismael would inherit Abe's "wealth" since Ismael was the firstborn. But since Sarah was the first wife and Issac...

It's a bloody mess, literally. And it's been going on for a long, long time.

It's funny that some Arabs are 'anti-semites'. They themselves are part of the semitic races...

http://www.evangelbaptist.org/highsc...ns/abraham.htm

Clarification:
I was born into a family that's Catholic on the female side and raise a Catholic...after 8 yrs of Catholic school, a confirmed agnostic. Don't particularly like the evangelists, esp. the TV evangelists: too pushy... [PTL = Pass the Loot.]

Of course I love the Catholic pomp and ceremony and the music!!! I still prefer Latin / high mass.

PK

[Black Jeebus]

Yay another once-Catholic person! I was seriously considering being a deacon right up till highschool (an all boy Catholic military school). For some reason I just can't seem to take faith for granted anymore, by that same token I can't disprove god, so agnostic it is. But its wierd whenever I go to mass for some family event I always feel compelled to participate in the mass (damn indoctrination). Either way I also really like the structure of the whole thing, even without a belief in that religion you feel like theres something more going on than just the mass.

[D'Artagnan1673]

Interesting thread since the next book I intend to check out will hopefully be on the Protestant Reformation.

[pkt]

Back to the pronunciation of non-English names:

Being a Cdn in one of the most cosmopolitant cities in Canada. Walk on the streets of Vancouver and you're more that likely to hear 4-5 languages being spoken.

Being a waitress/waiter in a Chinese restaurant here is not an easy task anymore: One has to be able to speak the two dominant Chn dialects: Cantonese and Mandarin, obviously. Some of the waiting staff speak other dialects as well as Vietnamese - Don't forget VN was a Chinese colony for a few hundred yrs before the French, before the Americans... - been there, done that.

Then of course there is the national pastime: Hockey. There are so many Europeans players in the league that even Don Cherry has to chabge his tunes and Harold Ballard, former owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs is prob. spinning in his grave...

So what I'm saying is that as a citizen here, we have to learn to learn to pronunce all these strange and wonderful names... Of course you all, as Americans, know Zbigniew Brezinsky, the US Sec of State for President Carter. [He's another Cdn...]

Then I, as a Chinese person, have to learn that because of the diff't dialects, the same written Chinese name has very diff't spellings... The stereotypical Chan (HK) can be spelled Chen (Mandarin), Tran (Vietnamese), Chun (NA), etc.

BTW, i looked it up, seems like Tiomkin is a Ukrainian name...

PK