Cost of War in Iraq

[SJB]

http://costofwar.com/

Let the character assassinations begin.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

wow what a stupid little website. the whole thing is a running tally, the only problem being that we do not put the same amount of money into the war every second. How cant he price keep changing if no new approiartions bill(or seomthing of the like) has been passed? Plus I love how it does not incorporate for the money and teh jobs that the war created.

[pkt]

In response to KShan5[PrFC]'s Robin Williams tag:

Did you read about the stupid robber who broke into a house in Germany and drank half a bottle of un-named 'rare Scotch' and got so drunk that he stripped and joined the soundly sleeping husband and wife in their double bed.

[It wasn't reported whose side of the bed he got in on. Neither was it reported if the couple slept in the nude or not.]

The husband and wife finally woke up when the robber started snoring!!!

Block heads all.

PK

[pkt]

As long as a soldier, a humvee, a tank, a warship, a plane is deployed it costs money.
Think of a humvee, what does it run on? Who drives it?
Would it need maintenance if it was not deployed?

Think of a ship. If it wasn't deployed, does it burn fuel? Does it require sailors to staff its...etc.

Whenever a bullet is fired, it needs to be replaced. etc.

These all cost money.

Think also of the opportunity costs: All those reservists who could have been making a living getting paid more than the US gov't can pay them, that's an opportunity cost to the US economy.

PK

[Inquartata]

Originally posted by pkt
Think of a humvee...
Would it need maintenance if it was not deployed?

Yes. Oh god yes. And even if it doesn't really "need" it, it GETS it. Makework for its crew and the mechanics. Gotta keep 'em busy somehow.

Think of a ship. If it wasn't deployed, does it burn fuel? Does it require sailors to staff its...etc.

Yes. Very much so. Only when it's completely in mothballs is a ship unmanned and unmaintained.


Right on about opportunity costs, though---something very few people ever seem to take into consideration...

[lochinvar]

The true cost of the war?

Whatever shred of respect many ever had for George W. Bush.
The shame of exposing to the world that the US can blythely go to war for trumped-up, spurious reasons.
The lives and futures of a few dozen service men and women a week, killed without purpose in a place where they didn't need to be. Oh, yes, and those of their families.

That's all it's cost/costing. In return, we get to funnel big contracts to Dick Cheney's buddies at Haliburton. I don't see how anyone could object to that...

[fencerjim]

Well, being fresh from Iraq, (I left in March), I have only this to say right now..It sucked.
But the tea was delightful.

[rukovsoft]

but all those costs even the opportunity ones might be covered in the long term with the money us and its allies will make in iraq: oil+reconstruction. it ll be like a marshall plan.

however i don t know how much it ll cost to rebuild the oil infrastructure...that s the first thing us troops did in iraq...try to "restore" economy by starting the production again...
and some will say again that war has little to do with money/business/oil...

as a frenchmen, i must say though that french and germans did take advantage for a long time of the food for oil program...but it s not a reason for the us to kick them from Iraq...since the us are about to do the same thing.

pro-bush/iraq...i m waiting for your flames again.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Stupid Robbers:

Guy robs a liquor store. Takes all the cash. Then he tells the man at the counter to give him the whisky that was behind him. The guy at the counter said that he had to make sure the robber was over 21 years old. After arguing the robber eventually gav4e the man at the cash register his license. The guy copied down the correct information and said, "okay, here is the whisky." He was arrested 45 minutes later at his residential address, on his license.

[Tireur]

as a frenchmen

pro-bush/iraq...i m waiting for your flames again.

You flamed yourself.............................

[rukovsoft]

once again tireur,

thank god i m not representative of all frenchmen, and thank god you re not representative of all americans !!!!!!!

once again you get stuck in dumb broad generalizations, that prove HOW NARROW MINDED you are !!!


at least other members on this forum, even if they strongly disagree are smart enough to debate with me...and they ve been doing that since the war started. you only comment on my being french, andmy should stay there...

not all frenchmen are against the war (actually 10 percent were in favor), not all americans back bush on the war...not all republicans are in favor of the war or bad. someprominent democrats even back the war...


maybe you should trade your " cars for a nice histroy book, and fox news for the history channel...and maybe you d be able to offer decent arguments to my stupid french debate.....but here i m making generalization like you....it s just too easy. comeon raise the bar of the debate....you re much older, married...you should be more mature.

[Tireur]

How typically french, can't detect humor......

[rukovsoft]

Originally posted by Tireur
How typically french, can't detect humor......

and another generalization....i m fench i cannotdetect humour...

well letme tell you, it doesn t sound at all like humour.

we re fencers, we re supposed to luv dueling...give me your views and explain it...i don t want sarcasm, or so called humour.

attack me on my points notusing my country of origin but using good arguments...some people on this forum, have really good arguments, even if i TOTALLY disagree....interesting hting. it makes me rethink what i think i know about iraq and bsuh...maybe after all, i might be wrong, allthe french, german, canadians, russians might be wrong...saddam might have wmd, he might back terrorists...who knows.


the interesting hting is to prove me i m wrong....that s calledpolitics isn t it. politics isnot the art of the concensus as people usually think, it s the art of DEBATE.

[Tireur]

I suppose saying "Bush is a dangerous moron" is a good argument.

I say, Chirac is a moron and a dangerous criminal. Prove I'm wrong.

[KShan5[PrFC]]

Tireur I agree with many of your views. But grow up. Although I disagree with Rukovst, and do watch FoxNews and do back the war, at least he is making the attempt to make this a civilized and educated debate. Whereas everything you have said have been dull one line generalities and essentially a waste of space. Bring something interesting to the table please, don't just try and start flames (or at least be more subtle about it )

[swordsen]

hmmm, I'm not French, I do back the concept of the war while not being terribly happy about it's execution. Can't stand fox news. Am going back to afghanistan in two days. My leave is over.