Italian Sabre fencing

[Quicksilver]

It's incredibly hard to find any of the old Italian style in fencing schools; and yes I'm talking about Sabre. Why is that?

[Quicksilver]

I live all the way in Seattle, Washington...there is no way I can fly all the way to Virginia. *sighs*

[Quicksilver]

I hope the campus is listed in the 411 directory; I'll give them a call. Thanks a lot for your help

[micromarty]

Bruce Burch, Head Coach at Metro Tacoma was a protege of the Italian Maestro Anthony Greco. He teaches the Greco method at our club.

Bruce's specialty is Sabre.

Marty
Metro Tacoma http://www.geocities.com/micromarty/tacomaFencing.html

[sabreur]

Maybe because the Hungarians took the Italian school to new levels in the first part of the century, and the Russians took the Hungarian school to new levels in the second part of the century.

If you're really fascinated by old Italian sabre, get Gaugler's book.

Mark Ray

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Why sabre? Because you don't take heads with the point.

[Christopher J Umbs]

Quicksilver,

There's always..

Weekend of the Duelling Sabre

The AHF, in conjunction with Martinez Academy
of Arms is hosting a weekend
of Italian duelling sabre on June 9-10, 2001. This seminar will focus on
the use of sharps in an affair of honor, and will concern itself solely
with the realities and considerations that must be met on the terrain. All
tactics and techniques will be specific to the duel in keeping with the
objectives of the traditional Italian duelling sabre. To be kept foremost
in mind is that the intention is to incapacitate the adversary and end the
encounter as quickly as possible.

On Sunday the Duelling Sabre Open Tournament will be held. Pre-registration
for the Tournament is required. This will be the first time that the AHF
will use its newly formulated rules specific to the Duelling Sabre.
Following the tournament, time will be set aside for free fencing.

For more information please visit the AHF website at www.ahfi.org.


Chris

[Quicksilver]

Thanks for the help guys...you have no idea how much info I recieved just by hearing from you, in contrast to asking those who attend my fencing academie. Our school is primarily based on fleuret and epee, so it's difficult to find some decent coaches who have excelled in the field of sabre. And about that seminar, Chris -- are they strictly teaching the code of the duellist...as in the kind of rules that the 18th century sabreurs followed in court?

[This message has been edited by Quicksilver (edited 05-11-2001).]

[sabreur]

Yo Quick,

I believe that the dueling sabre was developed in the latter part of the 19th Century.

Sabre duels before that were fought with military sabres, which are much heavier.

Chris Umbs can undoubtedly comment further.

Regards, Mark Ray

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Why sabre? Because you don't take heads with the point.

[Matt_Bailey]

As I understand it, it was a Hungarian custom to duel with light sabers without using the point, which Raedelli adopted. The
important thing being, it had become legally shake to kill a man in a duel, and cutting him with the edge was alot less likely to be mortal.
Cheers,
Matt

[Quicksilver]

Thank you for correcting that obvious mistake, Mark...cavalry sabres were used extensively during the earlier centuries. I can't believe I got them confused with the lighter sabres.

[HilandDoug]

Hey, Matt, any more info about Radaelli? I just bought 2 Radaelli sabres from Negrini.com (actually just the guards, put my own grips & blades on them and saved a bundle in shipping) to use in the seminar and tournament Chris mentioned in June. I have another friend pumped up about it, so 2 of us are definately coming from the Motor City, and maybe a 3rd.

These sabres are bada**! They're a bit heavier, being nickel plated steel. The only drawback I can see, is that the nickel plate can come off if whacked hard enough. The weapon cost over $100 once put together, but like I said, very bada$$. $75 just for the guard, Santelli leather wrapped sabre grip, Uhlman pommel nut (but I might put a heavier nut on it), and Dinamo V sabre blade. Can you tell I'm brimming with excitement? I'll shut up now......
(by the way, check out the CF Saber Rules post for a link to the Radaelli sabres on Negrini.com)