Who says it's the boss's time?

[FoilyGeezer]

Originally posted by MyraTrue
Foilygeezer: and all along I was thinking there was nothing dramatic about foil?! *hides behind Blue Falcon figuring he'll die of venomizing first*

Interesting that you should say that. I was talking with a lady the other day who's son is interested in starting fencing. I was explaining to her how most people start with foil, although there are two other weapons. She asked me if I had ever fenced epee or saber, and I responded that I never had...more through a lack of opportunity than anything else, but it started me thinking that certain personality types seem drawn to certain weapons.

I started to think of historical parallels and I think

Sabereurs = Berserkers. Wade into the melee with your weapon waving and sort the body's out later.

Foilists = Assasins. Intellectual elitists who don't let their morality get in the way of preserving their mortality.

Epeeists = The Noble Class. Those who persue the study of the blade as an abstract exercise (I mean honestly, who would concentrate on learning to hit someone in the toe when you could just run them through and have done with it?)

[MyraTrue]

Gee... well? Uh... hmm... but! er...

wait just a minute here!

Now, I dunno. Just cause I like epee, and think there's something evily amusing about your oponent being hell bent on running you through, and suddenly *WHAM* finds himself looking at his toe... well, its FUNNY! And its just like me... devious... or is that deviant?

I had a friend who use to describe the weapons as follows. It always made me laugh:

Foil: rich little fop's weapon, lighter than epee ("real sword"), looks nice, but doesn't do anyhting unless you pierce a vital organ (ie- torso only). And since they're rich little fops, they have to be burried with an open casked funeral, so no face shot allowed.

Epee: more of a street duels anyhow, right? Just run this through a nice gutter somewhere, dip it into the stock tank, and it doesn't MATTER where you hit 'em, they'll die of gangreen anyway. WOO!

Sabre: its all about the horse, baby. You only attack above the waist, cause you want his horse. Glorified horse thievary. So, if you hack off his head, his arm, etc, perfect. He isn't worth half as much as his horse.

Uh... yeah. That would be me with the epee in the stock tank.

[FoilyGeezer]

Foil; A weapon of rich fops? I don't see it that way at all. The ancestor of the Foil; the small sword, was developed as a refinement or evolution of the rapier. It follows suit that the most likely people to have to master the weapon were the fencing masters and merchant class members of the dueling set who wouldn't have had a more pressing need to avail themselves of any advantage. These were people who were as likely to be dueling to settle material disputes (those having to do with their livelihood) as they were those of pure honor.

No. No. "Oooh look, I hit you in the foot. Goody for me. Goody for meeeeee!!!" Just wouldn't get it done for many of these folks. I tend to thing that those who were lurking in the back alleys of Europe were among the first to choose the lighter, faster, superior blade over the longer, heavier, erm...inferior blade. Those who resided in their manors, and held to the conservatism of tradition in both weapon choice and usage I think were far more the pattern of the modern Epeeist.

And I am being completely unbiased when I say; Foil is simply a superior weapon. Nyah Nyah Nyay Nyah Nyah!!!!

As for the devious/deviant bait. All I can say is.........heh ;-)

[blue_falcon]

Originally posted by MyraTrue

And I fail to tremble in fear of you. I mean, crushing bugs isn't exactly an awe inspiring feat. Not really.

And filthy minded is ONE way to put it. Call it a... friendly banter... yeah, thats it. "Friendly banter".

Foilygeezer: and all along I was thinking there was nothing dramatic about foil?! *hides behind Blue Falcon figuring he'll die of venomizing first*

*holds out hand and gestures*

TREMBLE BEFORE THE ALL-MIGHTY BUG CRUSHER! (tremble damn it! Awww, c'mon! Please? Maybe just a little, teeny-tiny tremor? Ok, maybe at least uhhhh....... quake in anticipation? A shudder! C'mon! Work with me here people! A slight shudder. That's all I ask!)

*grabs tarnished armor and puffs out chest to protect Myra*

Ha! No amount of venom can penetrate my enchanted armor! Doh! Hold on, that's my transparent armor. Just a sec -- I know I have that stupid armor somewhere here........ * rummages through a trunk of rusty armor while muttering to himself *

Gimme a sec, ok?

[blue_falcon]

Originally posted by MyraTrue
Now, I dunno. Just cause I like epee, and think there's something evily amusing about your oponent being hell bent on running you through, and suddenly *WHAM* finds himself looking at his toe... well, its FUNNY! And its just like me... devious... or is that deviant?

Ok Myra, in solidarity with the rest of the deviants out there........

DEVIANTS UNITE! Be not ashamed of your deviance! Normal people are, uhhh....... like boring and stuff........

Sorry. Ran out of steam there!

Ok, just out of curiosity's sake ...... how many self-identified deviants are there on this board?

*slowly raises hand *

*grabs Myra's hand and raises it as well*

[MyraTrue]

TREMBLE BEFORE THE ALL-MIGHTY BUG CRUSHER! (tremble damn it! Awww, c'mon! Please? Maybe just a little, teeny-tiny tremor? Ok, maybe at least uhhhh....... quake in anticipation? A shudder! C'mon! Work with me here people! A slight shudder. That's all I ask!)

Does a caffeine overdose with additional "haven't eaten in 12 hours" shaking count? *does her best to look a little scared, falls asleep in the process* Ok... trembling... well, I'll be able to give you a shiver, once I find my fingers and thaw them out, along with my toes.

Ha! No amount of venom can penetrate my enchanted armor! Doh! Hold on, that's my transparent armor. Just a sec -- I know I have that stupid armor somewhere here........ * rummages through a trunk of rusty armor while muttering to himself *

*covers eyes* oh, please, not transparent! Anything but that! Maaaaaaan, I get my x-ray vision fixed just so I don't have this problem, and then you go getting out transparent armour? Drat...

But of course, my thanks, good Sir, for such noble defense of an epeeist.

Ok, just out of curiosity's sake ...... how many self-identified deviants are there on this board?

*slowly raises hand *

*grabs Myra's hand and raises it as well*

Wait, did you just volunteer us for the firing squad again? What did I tell you about doing that???

And of COURSE I'm a deviant. Life isn't fun if you can't be. After all, if you can't cause trouble, who will?

[blue_falcon]

Originally posted by MyraTrue
Does a caffeine overdose with additional "haven't eaten in 12 hours" shaking count? *does her best to look a little scared, falls asleep in the process* Ok... trembling... well, I'll be able to give you a shiver, once I find my fingers and thaw them out, along with my toes.

*covers eyes* oh, please, not transparent! Anything but that! Maaaaaaan, I get my x-ray vision fixed just so I don't have this problem, and then you go getting out transparent armour? Drat...

But of course, my thanks, good Sir, for such noble defense of an epeeist.

Wait, did you just volunteer us for the firing squad again? What did I tell you about doing that???

And of COURSE I'm a deviant. Life isn't fun if you can't be. After all, if you can't cause trouble, who will?

Ok -- I'll take that in lieu of shaking or quaking in fear. As long as there's some semblance of a vibrationary motion, I'm happy!

Hey, I said the ARMOR was transparent! I didn't say THE CLOTHES were transparent! And, for your information, I DO wear clothing underneath the armor.

*snorts derisively and mutters under breath about women who don't seem to know too much about combat fashions*

Still, I shall I defend thee, my dear damsel in distress! On the condition, of course, that you defend me against creepy crawlies and the like!

Hey, was that the firing squad detail AGAIN? Crap. I thought we got out of that the last time!

*mutters under breath as he rummages in a trunk for his firing squad outfit*

Wait, you ARE a deviant! Cool! Here, let me check for my spare deviant outfit

*rummages further in trunk and finds PVC cat suit*

Here -- I think it's perfectly your size

[Soldier]

Originally posted by MyraTrue
Miss is not in particular mind for abuse, but thank you all the same.

And I fail to tremble in fear of you. I mean, crushing bugs isn't exactly an awe inspiring feat. Not really.

And filthy minded is ONE way to put it. Call it a... friendly banter... yeah, thats it. "Friendly banter".

Foilygeezer: and all along I was thinking there was nothing dramatic about foil?! *hides behind Blue Falcon figuring he'll die of venomizing first*

But, what about awe-inspiring feet?

[MyraTrue]

Hmmm.... there's a thought. Awe inspiring feet... hmm...

Nope. Doesn't work. The only feet I can ever think of that were ALMOST awe inspiring belong to the 6'8" epeeist...
I can step into his shoes wearing mine, and still have room to slog around. Creepy.

[Black Jeebus]

Theres an epeeist at our club that inevitably if she has her epee in hand and someones standing there talking to her she pokes their toes. Do all epeeist engage in this poking of defenseless toes? I'm a foilist, my toes aren't used to being poked, poor little guys

[MyraTrue]

I hate to say it... but yes! I learned to fence from a 6'6" epeeist, and here I was, this innocent foilist, with bruises on my toes. He'd take his epee and start to try to hit my foot, and I'm dancing around trying to ask something. And then he'd hit, finally :KerCHUNK!

But now I'm an epeeist, and I have to admit, there's something about being able to attack people's toes. I don't know what it is, but its there, and it forever calls you to randomly wander around and poke people's feet. An addiction.

[Black Jeebus]

Well I suppose I can't realy talk, if I'm holding a foil I usually start poking people in the chest or back. I will poke my coach in the back a dozen times as he walks away from me to put up his gear.

[MyraTrue]

I don't do that. I don't really feel any urge to do that. But I had to laugh this morning, cause I'm standing there with a pair of foilists and a foilist who was teaching sabre... and me. And I start to stab toes randomly, though nicely. Its uncontrollable!

[Tireur]

But now I'm an epeeist, and I have to admit, there's something about being able to attack people's toes. I don't know what it is, but its there, and it forever calls you to randomly wander around and poke people's feet. An addiction.

I am not an epeeist. The only addictive thing about it to me, is when people try to touch my toes and get center-punched in the mask..........................

[The0ne]

in my club the foilists practice their flicks to the back instead of toe hitting. . . Much cooler.

[Soldier]

Both dumb, but then, I'm quite a conservative even in fencing. While it is obviously a sport very much separated from the combat it comes from, I still think it should stick to the general spirit of things - as in, a toe touch doesn't matter half as much as a direct hit to, say, the chest, and flicking simply wouldn't work - especially to an area like the back of the shoulder.

[dreadfoily]

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[Catlady]

I checked studying, since that's what I ought to be doing right now, but I've done all of the above before. Sad, but true.

[telkanuru]

Study, study, study. Or at least I should. Silly classes, taking my time.

And as an epee fencer, I wear an extra right sock. It helps.

[MyraTrue]

the bad part about that is that its one more pair of socks in the shoes.

Then again *considers shins* I know what you mean. But when I get shin scars, it gives me something to show off.