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    Math students, help!

    What's the affect of not doing your own homework? Assuming one homework problem is worth .00346% of your grade and not doing that problem affects 1 quiz problem affects 2 test problems affects 4 final problems affecting 1.569% of your grade. Now assume the habit of not doing your own homework increases exponentially, what will your grade be as the limit of homework problems not completed increases infinity?

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    You have to factor in the intelligence coefficient of fencers, assuming a frictionless spherical discussion forum.
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    With uniform gravitational force

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    good grief!! just do your $%^&^%$ homework!!!! it will only help you in the long run by making tests/finals that much easier!!! i've proved it sooo many times!!

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    Don't listen to these people. A real student never does his homework. If I were paying 20 grands a year for tuition, I'd expect the professor to do the learning for me, and my diploma ought to come with a 69-inch plasma TV.
    Maybe, perhaps, likely, possibly, probably, potentially.

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    Let me start by saying that one homework problem is certainly not .00346 of your grade or anything near to that. All teachers grade differently though- my math teacher doesn't even check homework but my physics teacher collects every assignment and grades every problem. But let's assume that your homework gets graded and that each problem is .00346% of your final grade, and the knowledge lost from not doing it propagates to a 1.569% loss in your final grade. Add these two up to find that for every homework problem you don't do, you lose 1.57246 points off your final grade. Ceteris paribus, i.e. assuming that you learn how to do everything except what you dont do homework in, and pass each test accordingly, your final grade can be represented as

    G = 100-1.57246h

    Exponential growth or not, when we go to take the limit as h -> infinity we find that

    lim 100-1.57246h = -infinity
    h -> infinity

    So if the semester were endless, your grade would be negative infinity. Of course the semester has an end and so you have a finite number of homework assignments. Lets say one per day, and 18 weeks in the semester = 90 homeworks, assuming one problem per night.

    lim 100-1.57246h = -41.5214
    h -> 90

    Eek! I don't think that negative grades can exist though, because of the weighting method used to find final percentages. At least I've never seen a negative grade. So, it would be rounded to the nearest positive number: 0.

    Conclusion:
    If you don't do your homework, you will fail.
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    First, there is the assumption that there are things homework alone can teach us. In many cases, homework problems are simply practice of concepts already well understood.

    Second, that was very...interesting...to come up with that mathematical model...
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    Mathematics assumes many many things. So does physics. Of course, as we all know, what you assume... (fill in the blanks)

    Heh, come to think of it, that would be fun to write a term paper on- how my grade will be affected if I don't do my homework. It also has its practical uses: how much homework can I not do and still pass the class?
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    Re: Math students, help!

    Why don't you just do the homework?!?!?!? It would be a lot easier than sitting here, asking a question that is REALLY REALLY hard, and then waiting for someone with enouh pateince to figure the answer out and then actually tell it too you! I do that sometimes when I am bored. Some kid asks me to do this problem on his math homework 'cause he doesn't "get it" so I sit there and write the whole thing out, no short cuts, write the correct answer box it in and say THERE! Happy?!? and then close my binder before they have a chance to see the answer. That or i'll write down the correct answer then do something totaly wrong to it and tell the person an answer that is a million miles off!!!!!

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    So, canthidefromme,
    Do you think you're going to be rich, filthy rich? I don't care how you do it. Do you?
    So how do you know how to count you millions? That's math.
    How do you know the rate of returns of your investments? That's math.
    when you get your boat/yacht/ship, don't you think you should know how to pilot the thing? I know, when you're so rich, you can afford to hire a crew. But until that time, you have to get your captain's license. Guess what you'll need. Yup, knowledge of math to calculate the distance. currents., etc.
    How about owning your own plane to fly to the differnet places to get to your busy schedule - you ain't gonna drive are you? Guess what you'll need to get a pilot's license. Yup, math.
    How about getting a race driving license. You need some knowledge of math there too. Slip angle, counting how many laps your tank of gas will last. Or simply counting the number of laps.

    What I'm trying to say is you'll need some knowledge of math in counting your monies in one form or another. [If you think I'm wrong in writing "monies" then you better go back to school.]

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    Originally posted by pkt
    So, canthidefromme,
    Do you think you're going to be rich, filthy rich? I don't care how you do it. Do you?
    So how do you know how to count you millions? That's math.
    How do you know the rate of returns of your investments? That's math.
    when you get your boat/yacht/ship, don't you think you should know how to pilot the thing? I know, when you're so rich, you can afford to hire a crew. But until that time, you have to get your captain's license. Guess what you'll need. Yup, knowledge of math to calculate the distance. currents., etc.
    How about owning your own plane to fly to the differnet places to get to your busy schedule - you ain't gonna drive are you? Guess what you'll need to get a pilot's license. Yup, math.
    How about getting a race driving license. You need some knowledge of math there too. Slip angle, counting how many laps your tank of gas will last. Or simply counting the number of laps.

    What I'm trying to say is you'll need some knowledge of math in counting your monies in one form or another. [If you think I'm wrong in writing "monies" then you better go back to school.]

    PK

    And this is directed at me why?

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