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    screwdriver fencing :)

    Here is a link to a story that alludes to the 'real world' value of fencing skills (beyond fitness ...)


    Screwdriver and rage spook would-be robber


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    haha, that was cool! now we have proof that fencing is as good for "streetfighting" as other martial arts
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    Heh heh, practical application at it's finest.
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    I posted this in another thread too:
    Screwdriver and rage foil would-be robber
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    now we have proof that fencing is as good for "streetfighting" as other martial arts
    Ah, but what if she had no screw driver? That's the problem when comparing fencing to other more "body-based" martial arts. fencing needs a sword while typical martial arts needs only you. just something to think about before you go out on the streets shouting "Don't mess with me I can fence!"

    The story was good though.
    "You fools, I and my fellows are ministers of Fate. The elements of whom your swords are tempered may as well wound the loud winds or with bemocked-at stabs kill the still-closing waters as diminish one dowl that's in my plume.

    The Tempest
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    thats awsome tho you don't need a sword just a long pole or something

    but good find
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    Fencing has a lot of concepts that apply to martial arts and fighting.

    For example Jeet Kune Do, Bruce Lee's art was founded on Wing Chun and fencing, if you read his Tao of JKD you'll find constant references to fencing technique all through the work.

    In shotokan I remember we had 'lunge punches' too.

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    Personally, I think that most fencing techniques would work admirably in a street fighting situation. Let's see... they punch, you parry, riposte punch. yup. that should work. and footwork?!? man, you should be able to dance circles (or at least forward and back) around others.

    Remember too, that the value of protecting yourself on the street is often about using what's handy. Which martial art is it that promotes the ability to use any nearby object as a weapon? I think the martial arts that rely strictly on the person are the minority.

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    Yeah, but when I am fighting, with Uncles, cousins friends etc. You can keep good distance using fencing footwork, but you are BACKWARDS....throwing a hard punch from your strong hand while it is already leading is much more difficult then if you were in a boxing or karate stance.
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    Originally posted by Strytllr
    Personally, I think that most fencing techniques would work admirably in a street fighting situation. Let's see... they punch, you parry, riposte punch. yup. that should work. and footwork?!? man, you should be able to dance circles (or at least forward and back) around others.

    Remember too, that the value of protecting yourself on the street is often about using what's handy. Which martial art is it that promotes the ability to use any nearby object as a weapon? I think the martial arts that rely strictly on the person are the minority.
    Fine if you can get a long, thin, preferably pointy/sharp object, but otherwise, you're kind of screwed. Also, if you ask anybody who's actually been in street fights, they'll tell you that the first thing that happens in any fight is that it goes to the ground. Hence why the unarmed combat classes here are much closer to wrestling than any kind of karate, etc.
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    Originally posted by Soldier
    Fine if you can get a long, thin, preferably pointy/sharp object, but otherwise, you're kind of screwed. Also, if you ask anybody who's actually been in street fights, they'll tell you that the first thing that happens in any fight is that it goes to the ground. Hence why the unarmed combat classes here are much closer to wrestling than any kind of karate, etc.
    You are absolutely right. Submission style is king in hand-to-hand combat. Anyone's seen the Ultimat Fighting Championship knows karate and other fancy fighting styles are almost completely useless. What it comes down to is two things: how strong you are, and how fast you can achieve a full mounting position on your opponent.


    p.s. I bet the girl is an epeeist. She cool.
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    Memories...not to far back though!

    Screwdriver fencing sounds a lot like what my brother and I do- kinda. When we have to do dishes we always fence with the "silver"wear. We fence with pencils, dry spagetti noodles, anything we can. Sometimes when we are just hanging out somewhere we start "chopping" at eachother with out arms : )

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    dudes, let's all just carry around our fencing weapons!

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    Originally posted by C.J.
    p.s. I bet the girl is an epeeist. She cool.
    Espeeists don't parry

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    Okay, which is best: Phillips or flat head screwdriver?
    "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different."

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    Originally posted by jeff
    Okay, which is best: Phillips or flat head screwdriver?

    for fencing... most likely a Phillips, s'got more of a point to it. dose the artical say which one she used? or for that mater how long it was? that would be something to think about. i'd be a bit squeemish about parrying a knife with no guard for my hand.
    "You fools, I and my fellows are ministers of Fate. The elements of whom your swords are tempered may as well wound the loud winds or with bemocked-at stabs kill the still-closing waters as diminish one dowl that's in my plume.

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    dudes, let's all just carry around our fencing weapons!
    Why not dress in full FIE equipment too

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    FIE uniforms are not stab-proof. In fact, most bullet-proof vests worn by cops are not stab-proof, either.
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    Originally posted by jeff
    Okay, which is best: Phillips or flat head screwdriver?
    I'd definitely have to go with Philips. Flat head has more surface area, which means more pressure necessary for penetration.

    And there's no actual guard on a screwdriver, but there is the size difference between the shaft and the handle.
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    Originally posted by jeff
    Okay, which is best: Phillips or flat head screwdriver?
    Methink Robertson is best.
    For you non-Cdns, that's the one with the square head.

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