Re: Lames

In article <20031109210100.01555.00000460@mb-m11.aol.com>, fencer91162@aol.com
(Fencer91162) writes:

> but it seems like the
>Triplette non-metallic lames last a lot longer than any of the metallic ones.
>

When you say last do you mean they will pass the 5 ohm armorer's test longer or
they are useful for practice longer?

Our New England Division has the nasty habit of testing lames before
qualifiers, it makes a lot more business for the vendors.

Bill Hall

>
>> but it seems like the
>>Triplette non-metallic lames last a lot longer than any of the metallic
>ones.
>>
>
>When you say last do you mean they will pass the 5 ohm armorer's test longer
>or
>they are useful for practice longer?
>

Both, in my experience.

>Our New England Division has the nasty habit of testing lames before
>qualifiers, it makes a lot more business for the vendors.
>
>Bill Hall
>
>
If I remember correctly, lames were tested at Sectionals last year, but not
Divisionals. I try to remind everyone that is going to any type of qualifier
that just because a lame seems okay around the club, doesn't necessarily mean
that it will pass the armorer's test. I've had people give me lames that they
thought "only had one small dead spot" and have had to put 10" x 10" patches on
to make them legal. Of course, I do this *after* I give them a bath to remove
any salts.

Debbie B.

"Harold Buck" <no_one_knows@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:no_one_knows-328662.17291810112003@comcast.ash.giganews.com
> In article <20031110161906.19613.00000845@mb-m01.aol.com>,
> fencer91162@aol.com (Fencer91162) wrote:
>
>>> Our New England Division has the nasty habit of testing lames before
>>> qualifiers, it makes a lot more business for the vendors.
>>>
>>> Bill Hall
>>>
>>>
>> If I remember correctly, lames were tested at Sectionals last year,
>> but not Divisionals. I try to remind everyone that is going to any
>> type of qualifier that just because a lame seems okay around the
>> club, doesn't necessarily mean that it will pass the armorer's test.
>> I've had people give me lames that they
>> thought "only had one small dead spot" and have had to put 10" x 10"
>> patches on
>> to make them legal. Of course, I do this *after* I give them a bath
>> to remove
>> any salts.
>
>
> Wow! I've never had an armorer give ME a bath at a competition!

I guess you're not an old salt.

--

Dirk Goldgar

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In article <20031110161906.19613.00000845@mb-m01.aol.com>,
fencer91162@aol.com (Fencer91162) wrote:

> >Our New England Division has the nasty habit of testing lames before
> >qualifiers, it makes a lot more business for the vendors.
> >
> >Bill Hall
> >
> >
> If I remember correctly, lames were tested at Sectionals last year, but not
> Divisionals. I try to remind everyone that is going to any type of qualifier
> that just because a lame seems okay around the club, doesn't necessarily mean
> that it will pass the armorer's test. I've had people give me lames that
> they
> thought "only had one small dead spot" and have had to put 10" x 10" patches
> on
> to make them legal. Of course, I do this *after* I give them a bath to
> remove
> any salts.


Wow! I've never had an armorer give ME a bath at a competition!

--Harold Buck


"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

"Dirk Goldgar" <dgoldgar@NOalumni.SPAMprinceton.edu> wrote in message
news:VbCrb.4$lQ3.87971884@news.netcarrier.net...
> (snip!!!!)
>
> Of course you realize, Paolo, this means war?
>
Well, now seems as good a time as any since you're ailing.

I'll take any advantage I can....

"If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to
be weak, that he may grow arrogant."

Paolo

--
-)-------

"He is a man of splendid abilities but utterly corrupt. He shines and stinks
like rotten mackerel by moonlight."

In article <GWVrb.1$TX7.14419075@news.netcarrier.net>, "Dirk Goldgar"
<dgoldgar@NOalumni.SPAMprinceton.edu> writes:

>I guess you're not an old salt.

Actually, I am an old salt. Three years, eleven months and five days, but who
counts. Three years on sea duty also.

Bill Hall

Different manufacturers have a different standard cut to their uniforms. Allstar uniforms and lames, for example,
have a fair amount of taper in the body and will look good on those who have yet to lose the battle of the bulge.
Uhlmann has a bit less taper in their cut, Santelli less still, while others (like Triplette) have no taper at all (which is why
their stuff
looks like a potato sack on anybody whose waist measurement is less that their shoulder measurment).

-Dave

magni wrote:

> Ive a question about lames and their fit. In foil some people have
> these amazingly tailored lames...that is to say their lames seem to
> fit them like intestine on a sausage....whilst mine is more like a
> lumpy sack for potatoes!!!
>
> Granted, Im a bit lumpy myself. But i have this triplette lame...which
> is great...but they seem to run large and have a burlap sack like fit.
>
> Well, its quite possible that my lame wont make me the next fencing
> adonis...but right now....my fencing lame just makes me look...well..
> lame.
>
> Magni
> "Vanitas vanitatum et omnia vanitas"
>
> "Holly E. Ordway" <OUTordwayWITHTHIS@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<Xns942D5FF989DF15439754hjkgfdjio5408@216.196 .97.136>...
> > "Y.L." <inane@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
> > news:xG2rb.34644$Ec1.2899537@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
> >
> > > Sorry, another question. I'm finally investing in electric
> > > equipment. I was told that if one fences competitively, and between
> > > competitions and practice, one can (most likely) go through 1 or 2
> > > lames a season. Is this generally true? I'm asking because I am
> > > hesitant to invest in a higher quality Ulhmann lames if it will
> > > last as long as a Chinese-made one, i.e. if I'll have to buy a new
> > > one next year.
> >
> > As Harold pointed out, it depends how much you're fencing. It also
> > depends how well you take care of your lame, and how good a lame it
> > is. That said, it has definitely NOT been my experience to go through
> > lames that quickly - the fastest I've worn one out was an inexpensive
> > foil lame that went through two years of competing and occasional
> > practice before developing some holes in it.
> >
> > There is a difference between the low-end and the high-end lames, but
> > whether it's worth it depends on the individual. Two years ago I
> > finally caved and bought a nice stainless Uhlmann sabre lame. It's
> > still in almost-like-new shape and I expect to get at least another 3
> > years of use out of it. So, it was more expensive than the Chinese
> > ones, but I'll get my money's worth. It was also worth it to me
> > because it fit significantly better than the other, cheaper one I was
> > considering.
> >
> > > Also, and I'm sure to be opening a can of worms, but what is the
> > > opinion of Chinese-made fencing gear. Is it fine for local fencing?
> > > Does anyone in the States use it at higher levels or do better
> > > fencers just buy Ulhmann, Allstar, etc.
> >
> > I try to equip myself with the gear that works for me at the least
> > amount of money possible The Blue Gauntlet lames that I've used
> > have been of decent quality for the price - for a fencer who doesn't
> > compete a lot, it's a very good deal, and I routinely recommend them.
> > I do think the BG sabre mask is the best value out there - I've been
> > very happy with mine. I've also had good experiences with their
> > weapons, knickers, jackets, and plastrons. On the other hand, I prefer
> > my Uhlmann glove, lame, and overglove, and I like Prieur body cords
> > better.
> >
> > What works well for me (for lames) is to have a "competition" lame and
> > a "practice" lame (for both foil and sabre). My practice lame is an
> > older one that I wore in both practice and competition until it
> > developed some holes, and wouldn't pass inspection any more. Now I use
> > it in practice, and save my good, newer lame for competition only,
> > which extends its lifespan. I also make sure to wash all my lames
> > regularly.
> >
> > --Holly

"Fencerbill" <fencerbill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <GWVrb.1$TX7.14419075@news.netcarrier.net>, "Dirk Goldgar"
> <dgoldgar@NOalumni.SPAMprinceton.edu> writes:
>
>> I guess you're not an old salt.
>
> Actually, I am an old salt. Three years, eleven months and five days,
> but who counts. Three years on sea duty also.

Are you angling for a bath from Debbie B.?

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Dirk Goldgar

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"Paolo Damiani" <paolo.damiani@cinghiale.removethis.org> wrote in
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>
> "If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.
> Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant."

If your opponent has to resort to subterfuges like these, just hit him.

--

Dirk Goldgar

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In article <bN9sb.5$am4.65030272@news.netcarrier.net>, "Dirk Goldgar"
<dgoldgar@NOalumni.SPAMprinceton.edu> writes:

>Are you angling for a bath from Debbie B.?

Not if My wife finds out.

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:02:19 -0500, Amy & Joseph Kormann
<ajkormann@monmouth.com> wrote:

>What do you do with a lame which has gone past it's life-cycle? I have a
>copper lame which has a nice greenish tint that won't come out, hence
>dead spots. Is there some type of way to recycle it or just fold the
>whole thing into the landfill?
>
>Thanks.

For practice use at least, you could do worse than try the metallic
thread that I sell through http://members.shaw.ca/ubik/thread/. We've
been using it for maybe two years now, and the tired - well, more like
exhausted - shagged out even - club lames are for the most part still
usable because of it. We've used it on individual dead spots, and on
whole faces where the conductivity has dropped overall.

It should be good enough for small repairs to competition quality
lames too, but you may want someone else's opinion on that.

Robert Smith