11-12-2003, 11:56 PM
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#41 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by MyraTrue
[b]and then there might be an issue of back pockets too... er... sorry Reawl (*cough* haven't given you grief for a while).
| I'm so confused. I guess I haven't been around in a while and I tend to forget... well everything I guess.
As for the "Hot or Not" rating, it would be interesting to see if there is a correlation (for both men and women) between fencing skill and attractiveness. Any hypothesis?
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11-13-2003, 12:11 AM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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| I always was confusing, wasn't I? Check your PM, that should explain.
I am also VERY curious if there IS a relation between skill level and how attractive a fencer is deemed.... hmm... got me. I also wonder if there is a secret lefty attraction? 
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11-13-2003, 12:49 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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| If nothing else, we've made a sort of selection criterion to find not only the most attractive, but the most skilled fencers...which if we were trying to breed better fencers, should be encouaged to mate.  | |
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11-13-2003, 12:59 AM
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| *raises hand to be selected for mating*
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11-13-2003, 05:32 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Wizardly
If nothing else, we've made a sort of selection criterion to find not only the most attractive, but the most skilled fencers...which if we were trying to breed better fencers, should be encouaged to mate. |
hmm, seems a long time ago, i remember a thread asking if sex was good for fencing... 
just the first thing that came to mind...
Chris Triplett
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11-13-2003, 08:48 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by retardedspleen
hmm, seems a long time ago, i remember a thread asking if sex was good for fencing...
Chris Triplett | You mean, simultaneously?!
It would certainly put a new meaning on "advance-lunge", wouldn't it? AND it would be a great recruiting tool!
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11-13-2003, 03:19 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by lochinvar
You mean, simultaneously?!
| Not to mention the fact that we could bring back the bolestra!!!
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11-13-2003, 03:25 PM
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#48 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by MyraTrue
Someone did propose the other night that we could have a fencing hot-or-not and the monthly winners are then fenced for in tournament.  Of course, lowly "I have a U '03" people like me'd never stand a chance. 
-anti-sparkie | Not necessarily... some of the most attracitve fencers I know couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a riposte... Then again, epee isn't the prettiest of sports either (bruises bruises bruises!!! although I've had uglier welts from foil than any other weapon...) I'd have a shot!!!
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11-13-2003, 06:02 PM
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hmm, seems a long time ago, i remember a thread asking if sex was good for fencing...
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It would certainly put a new meaning on "advance-lunge", wouldn't it? AND it would be a great recruiting tool!
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Not to mention the fact that we could bring back the bolestra!!!
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Not necessarily... some of the most attracitve fencers I know couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with a riposte... Then again, epee isn't the prettiest of sports either
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11-13-2003, 06:56 PM
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| Re: Kentucky world cup
Quote: Originally posted by Canadian EH?
I stayed at the world cup for the events that I was not fencing in. The men's events where good to watch, but surprisingly some of the women bouts, foil and saber where very good. Some fencer chicks are good looking, but I feel the skills they have are more important. | ~Underline mine~
I can't believe you guys let him get away with that remark!
As far as the hot/not hot question, I can't think of a better way to usher in colored uniforms. Can you imagine J-Lo in whites? Gads!!
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11-14-2003, 02:51 PM
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| Ok, how about a scoring system -- fencers are rated according to "hotness" (whatever that is!) and are also rated according to their skill level. Then, the average of the two is taken to give us a single number.
Of course, you could end up with a less-than-attractive but very very good fencer having the same rating as a gorgeous (ok, hot!) but beginning fencer.
Unless, of course, the ratings are weighted -- e.g. 40-60 split in weighting in favor of fencing skill level? Please note that this can be switched around -- 40-60 in favor of the hotness factor......
I don't know about you guys but a fair amount of the female fencers in my salle are quite attractive! And they're quite good fencers as well!
Suffice it to say that I have no complaints (ok, maybe one or two!) about the attractiveness of female fencers in Canada. And most of them speak French too! What I would give for a French accent.......... | |
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11-14-2003, 02:52 PM
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| Ok, how about a scoring system -- fencers are rated according to "hotness" (whatever that is!) and are also rated according to their skill level. Then, the average of the two is taken to give us a single number.
Of course, you could end up with a less-than-attractive but very very good fencer having the same rating as a gorgeous (ok, hot!) but beginning fencer.
Unless, of course, the ratings are weighted -- e.g. 40-60 split in weighting in favor of fencing skill level? Please note that this can be switched around -- 40-60 in favor of the hotness factor......
I don't know about you guys but a fair amount of the female fencers in my salle are quite attractive! And they're quite good fencers as well!
Suffice it to say that I have no complaints (ok, maybe one or two!) about the attractiveness of female fencers in Canada. And most of them speak French too! What I would give for a French accent.......... :-) | |
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11-14-2003, 04:39 PM
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| Howsabout we split the two separate, hotness vs. results...
10 pts Yowza! (1.25 mod)
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0 pt Medusa (0 mod)
A rating: 10pts (1.25 modifier)
B rating: 8pts (1.2 mod)
c rating: 6pts (1.15 Mod)
D rating: 4pts (1.1 Mod)
E rating: 2 pt (1.05 Mod)
U rating: 1 pt (no mod)
Three fencers
#1 D03 8.5 looks rating (8.5*1.1= 9.35) skill rating (4.0*1.2125= 4.85)
#2 B03 3.3 looks rating (3.3*1.2= 3.96) skill rating (8*1.0825= 8.66)
#3 U 9.5 looks rating 9.5 skill rating (1*1.2375= 1.2375)
should we keep each weapon separate? or add a bonus per additional rating/have a 'multiweapon' list...?
let's say #1 also has an E03 in another weapon... add 1/2 the lower E modifier to the looks average (8.5*[1.1+.025] = 9.563 ) and gets a skill rating of (5.0*1.2125= 6.063 )
Hot valid target rating overall might add the two composite scores together... (15.626 in the two weapon case...)
sheesh... I've got too much time on my hands...
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11-14-2003, 05:02 PM
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#54 | | Senior Member
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| Is there really a linear relationship between overall rating and skill. I've seen some pretty attractive fencers, but their high rating can often lead to an unattractive personality (and screaming after each touch  ). Hows about a bell curve modifier?
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11-14-2003, 05:13 PM
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11-14-2003, 05:16 PM
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#56 | | Senior Member
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| Why don't we let photographs speak for the beauty and the fencing speak for the skill...that's what tournamens are for. | |
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11-14-2003, 06:17 PM
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#57 | | Senior Member
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| I agree with Wizardly. However, there has to be an OBJECTIVE scale here so we're on a level playing field!
The math is cool though. Of course, anyone who can understand the scoring system is immediately disqualified from participating......... | |
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11-15-2003, 01:57 AM
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#58 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by reawl
Is there really a linear relationship between overall rating and skill. I've seen some pretty attractive fencers, but their high rating can often lead to an unattractive personality (and screaming after each touch ). Hows about a bell curve modifier? | Damn. I'm doomed to be at the wrong side of the bell curve forever. So much for my dashing good looks. :-p | |
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11-15-2003, 02:26 AM
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| I agree with reawl- sometimes those high rankings come with some awfully big egos and bad attitudes, and people who are just plain unatractive at that point. And some of the nicest I've known are U's. Its not a rule for everyone, but sometimes...
I wonder if Craig would seriously let us do this. Its a funny thought.... | |
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11-15-2003, 01:43 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Wizardly
Why don't we let photographs speak for the beauty and the fencing speak for the skill...that's what tournamens are for. | There was a thread ahwile ago where people posted their pics. You probably remember it too. I seem to remember quite a few people posted pics in that thread. | |
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