The Matrix

[Army Fencer]

The Matrix comes out tomorrow. Anybody going to go out and see it?

[Iwant2bafencer]

it's tomorrow??? I thought it was December!
*Drools* I'm going!

[Army Fencer]

Anybody see it?? Was it any good??

[C.J.]

It is great, man! I got my 6 bucks' worth. As long as you don't try to think too hard, just enjoy the ride, you will have a good time. The final moments between Neo and Trinity almost had me sobbing. And the battle scene inside the dock was pretty good(tense), too. I am a tiny, little, disappointed with the special effects, but it got the job done anyway.

[damion18d]

I'm so glad to hear it's good. I've been waiting like some dork for it to come out.

[Iwant2bafencer]

Inside the duck?
*runs to go see it*

[C.J.]

Originally posted by Iwant2bafencer
Inside the duck?
*runs to go see it*

Yes, as the story goes on to explain what is the Matrix, we learn it really is one giant duck.

No, inside the dOck. Zion's dock.

[labouche]

hey.....don't give away any of the movie.....i'm probably seeing it this weekend

[Iwant2bafencer]

rofl. Hey you said it first. Haha I wasn't sure if it was a typo or if the did one of those honey I shrunk the Matrix things or something.

[darius]

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Thoughts on the new Matrix:

- Carrie Anne Moss and Keneau Reeves have now set the record for longest, cheesiest death scene, beating the one in "Titanic" by about 90 seconds. The overweight guy in a trenchcoat and Linux t-shirt in front of me was trying to hold back sobs. Don't worry, theatregoers, Natalie Portman is still alive.

- The main characters really should realize the pattern: white guys with goatees are TRAITORS.

- Speaking of dumb...there's only one person who has called you "Mister Anderson". Just who exactly do you think the mean looking white guy with the goatee is?

- I didn't get the cross symbology the first time you did the light effect thing. Quick, fade to the real world and show Neo spread out on the machine bed thingy. Just in case people didn't get it, do the light effect thing again. We wouldn't want anybody to miss it.

- Generally, you want the final battle to be more compelling than the middle battle. The middle battle was pretty damn cool.

- I had never seen that kung fu stance where Keneau gets in position and then curls his fingers to say "come get some". It was so novel.

- It's a shame that slo-mo face punch was CG, it would have been far funnier if they actually had to act it out.

- On a positive note, Seraph is definitely the coolest character in the entire trilogy.

- Good thing they concluded the story and didn't leave room for "Matrix: Resurrection". Oh, wait...

[C.J.]

Originally posted by Iwant2bafencer
rofl. Hey you said it first. Haha I wasn't sure if it was a typo or if the did one of those honey I shrunk the Matrix things or something.

Yeah, I am glad I hit the U key. Had I hit the key right next to the O key, I, I am afraid you might have done something more than just *runs to go see it*.

[C.J.]

Why do humans still use machine guns? Why didn't they have more EMP generators? And what's up with the stupid AI? Couldn't the machines just slide a few nukes into the dome? The whole invasion thing was completely unnecessary. And the movie would have been about an hour shorter, too. And if the AI were any good, it would know how to break a promise: tell Neo to do his thing, and as soon as he destroys Smith, give him the finger, and destroy Zion anyway. Same thing with the idiotic Merovingian. Couldn't he promise Trinity to save Neo, and as soon as she turns around, shoot her in the back?

I think you were thinking too hard, Darius. It's like rollercoster rides, it's pretty stupid if you think about it, but, like I said, don't think, and you will enjoy the ride.

[darius]

Bah, I love a brainless action-adventure-sci-fi blockbuster romp just as much as anybody.

However, there's a difference between celebrating mindless action and insulting the audience's intelligence. The final Matrix was heavy on the latter.

darius

[Talyn]

No offense to matrix fans but that movie was just plain bad.

It had very little consistancy and far too many new characters + what the &%$% was with the whole underground brothel/club/freak house???

And for those of you who say that the fighting was revolutionary and etc... Replace Neo with a ping pong ball and smith with another slightly heavier ping pong ball and you have a pretty good remake of the fighting scene.

Bah... I'm just bitter because I want 2 hours of my life + 10 bucks back.

[C.J.]

here is a pretty interesting explanation of the story.


THE MATRIX TRILOGY EXPLAINED - HONESTLY
by mikejwash@sbcglobal.net (movies profile) Nov 6, 2003
3030 of 3305 people found this review helpful

Let me first say I PROMISE YOU WILL LOVE THIS TRILOGY IF U READ THIS.

I apologize if my email does not follow the rules of this forum, but I felt I could offer you a very clear explanation of the Matrix series in light of reading your reviews of the Matrix Revolutions. The bottom line is people don't understand it. So this is a crash course for anyone who wants answers. Real one's, not some fanboys idea of what it's about. Please note, SPOILERS ARE ALL THROUGH THIS REVIEW.

Here we go with the basics.

Zion is real! The Matrix is not.

The Matrix was designed to provide a mental stimulus for the human bodies connected to the machines as a source of power. This is the sixth version of the Matrix. There have been multiple versions of the Matrix because of a flaw in the program (kinda of like Windows). That flaw is giving individuals the ability to choose.

The first Matrix was designed as a perfect uptopia (see pt. I - Smith explains it to Morpheus; pt. II - The Architect explains it again) but humans did not accept it as real so they just kept waking up. It was redesigned to reflect our civilization at it's last stage before it was taken over by the machines (the year 1999).

The Architect's problem with this new design (the anomoly)of the Matrix is that it require individuals to think freely, i.e. choice. It was the Oracle that suggested he redesign the Matrix in this way. But since humans have choices, so must the programs sent to watch over them, i.e. The Agents, thus bringing us the problem that is Mr. Smith. In Reloaded, The Architect continues to speak of the anomoly he is unable to get rid of, which is why at some point, he feels the only solution is to destroy the Matrix and those who are aware of it (the people of Zion) and start from scratch again.

The Oracle says it clearly in Revolutions. Mr. Smith is the result of the anomoly trying to balance itself. Mr. Smith began to think freely (see part I where he is freaking out while interrogating Morpheous) and the result was a negative one. Realize this, he is a similar program to the One so he is far more dangerous than a normal individual who makes bad decisions. Mr. Smith's virus like behavior happened in EVERY VERSION OF THE MATRIX. The result would always lead to the same thing -- a system crash if they didn't quickly reboot the system. The same knee jerk reaction you have when you realize someone has sent you a virus.

The One program was created to solve this problem. But each version of the One ultimately failed. Neo is different, in Reloaded he choose the door that led to Trinity, not the door that RESETS the program. Note: The Architect even noticed that Neo's experience in the Matrix was different than all the rest, realizing he was the first of them to fall in love.

Onto Revolutions:

Neo's choice has changed everything. The system is still threatened by Smith's behavior, so the Oracle makes a new choice; one she has never done before because no version of the One has ever chosen the difficult path as opposed to easy one of just resetting the system. She allows herself to become merged with Smith in the HOPE that she'll be able to help Neo when the time is right.

Neo makes another unique choice. He goes to the machines and asks for PEACE as opposed to simply destroying the system by going through the opposite door as all other versions of the One did. It was a simple as that to save Zion. Machines don't need very long to process that this may be a better idea than just constantly resetting the system.

At the end, Smith says to Neo the movies tagline - "Everything that has a beginning has an end," as the Oracle is speaking to Neo through Smith. Neo realizes it all along, the only way to end this is to sacrifice himself. The Oracle noted that Neo and the Source (the computer mainframe, the Architect they're all one and the same so don't get confused) are connected which is why he can control machines outside the Matrix. He uses this connection to his advantage. He becomes a Mr. Smith and since all the Smith's are connected, the Source now has a lock on Smith and simply deletes him. Pretty simple huh?

For those that like to dig deeper, than note the biblical references throughout the series. Heck, the French Man (Merovigchian) is the Devil, just read the elevator button Morpheous presses when he goes to see him for the second time. The Architect represents God - i.e. the creator of the world and its destroyer whenever things don't go as he wants. He even has you to chose a select group of people to restart Zion again sort of like Noah's Ark. Neo is Jesus, the one who realizes that peace and love is the answer, not war. And the Oracle represents the Holy Spirit - the conciousness that resides in all of us. It's a deep trilogy if you PAY ATTENTION.

[ReverseLunge]

Why is it that the only people being saved from the Matrix are blacks? You should see Zion, it looks like Harlem.

[Sabresque]

You know, I'm going to have to agree w/ the philosopher here. If you go to this movie not to think, you are missing the whole point of these movies. The special effects are nice, sure, but I think the last movie was really interesting in a thinky sort of way. For the record though, I wasn't impressed as much by the second one. I like the first and third, for different reasons.

[labouche]

Although, I have not seen the Matrix Revolution yet, from what I have heard from people it didn't tie in well with the second. Some said the way the made the third was as if you didn't need the second. What do you all think?
Just don't give away everything.....i'm still gonna see it.

[damion18d]

Well, ReverseLunge That's an interesting observsation you have there. What do you think it means? I'm truely interested in hearing your thoughts on it.

[ReverseLunge]

Originally posted by damion18d
Well, ReverseLunge That's an interesting observsation you have there. What do you think it means? I'm truely interested in hearing your thoughts on it.

It probably means you're black.