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Old 10-17-2003, 09:00 PM   #1
Eric A. Coles
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[CFML] Re: Kata in CF?

Hi all,

I vaguely remember a foil version taught by my fencing master - primarily
for demos. Series of advance-extend, lunge, recover, step back parry, etc,
etc in different lines. I use and teach a "kata" as the basic exercise for
everything heavier than a rapier that I cheerfully adapted and elaborated
on from an escrima drill. It's a series of parries, cuts, thrusts,
moulinets and counterattacks with opposition that emphasizes the flow of
action while moving through the various angles of attack/defense. It can
also be used as a partner drill. I find it quite helpful in, among other
things, teaching continuous action to a resolution, as opposed to discrete
techniques with, too often, a pause that can lose the initiative thereafter.

Best,

Eric





>Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 18:53:59 -0400
> From: Jeff Savit <jeff.savit@sun.com>
>Subject: Re: Kata in CF?
>
> >What would you like to know?

>
>Thanks for asking!
>
>It's an interesting concept, and certainly novel, as applied to fencing,
>and I
>can see where somebody with other martial arts training might think of
>this for
>their pedagogy.
>
>- Are they one-person or two-person forms?
>- How long do they get? (eg: Yang style Tai Chi "short form" can be 3-5
>minutes)
>- Are they done at tempo or kept at a restrained pace?
>- Are they handed? (eg: exist in both right and left handed versions) For
> two-person forms, it would require the partner also learn the opposite
> side.
> (In Kung Fu, a kata/form with weapon is taught righty only, for contrast)
>- What rationale is used for devising an etude (that is, are they devised to
> train a particular skillset, or are they intended to be "complete
> systems in
> one form", as with Tai Chi short and especially long forms).
>
>Finally, what is their purpose? We all do drills, mostly footwork when
>solo, or
>action/response drills (from simple to multiple tempos) when in pairs, but a
>kata/form/etude as a longer, varied, specific sequence of separate actions is
>quite another animal. What gap is this intended to close? How are they
>incorporated in a training program (are they an end in themselves, or are
>they a
>tool for training as an adjunct to standard paired drills and lessons). Given
>the goals: what has worked well, and what has not been as successful.
>
>thanks, Jeff



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