10-13-2003, 02:28 AM
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| Tarantino's "KILL BILL"
All,
Just spent CAD27+ (CAD35 including a coffee and a pop) to watch "KILL BILL".
I must admit it was an excellent movie. That said, if you do not like blood in your bovies, skip this. Tarantino was quoted as saying he lost count of the 'corpses' or the number of gallon of fake blood he used in this movie.
The kendo action was excellent. OK, it was not as classical as Toshiro Mifune, but UMA THURMAN, Lucy Liu et al did a creditable job. At times it's more like Sword of Doom (starring : Tatsuya Nakadai, Toshirô Mifune) wtih just as many dead bodies. http://www.kill-bill.com/
When you watch it pay attention to the details, the soundscape is fantastically detailed. Taratino really paid attention to all the details. this include how slippery blood is...
To the person who asked why parry quint is not used in kendo, this, just as any samurai movie will give you the answer: If you use 5th in a real sword fight, you'll lose your blade. Hence in Kendo, they prefer a beat riposte over a full block with the blade.
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10-13-2003, 07:23 AM
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| I'm downloading the film right now  | |
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10-13-2003, 08:45 AM
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| What does this have to do with fencing? When I saw the title I thought about Luigi Tarantino, not Quentin Tarantino. This should have gone into the Water Cooler?
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10-13-2003, 09:22 AM
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| On the subject of kendo parries one of the theories I heard expoused by an IAI guy was that the samurai swords were more like razors, whereas fencing weapons were made of spring steel so some of the parries we use were completely unsuitable to the weapon and would break the sword if used. | |
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10-13-2003, 11:15 PM
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| Veeco, I think Mike answered your question/objection.
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10-14-2003, 12:47 AM
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| Just saw it. It was AWESOME. | |
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10-14-2003, 02:40 PM
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| I just bought the original soundtrack.
I have a question re the original song written by The RZA for this movie. http://www.maverick.com/kill-bill/
The song is "Ode to Oren Ishii":
"...half Chinese, half Japanesi, half American..."
3 halves? That make 1.5.
Besides, Oren Ishii only mentioned that she's half Japanese and half American...where did the half-Chinese come in?
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10-14-2003, 03:36 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by pkt
Besides, Oren Ishii only mentioned that she's half Japanese and half American...
PK | Untrue. Did you watch the movie?
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10-14-2003, 09:23 PM
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| o man! I want to watch it so bad! Everything I want in a movie. I don't like a lot of gore but the action I have to see! Anime, chinese martial arts, kendo... I got to go see it with my friend.
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10-14-2003, 11:31 PM
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| I saw the movie today. Have to say, it's definetely a Tarentino film. Loved it. Very stylistic as the critics have been saying.
Although, I didn't care for the black-n-white sequences. I heard on one of the morning shows that overseas, they show those scenes in color. I guess, that's how he (Tarnentino) was able to keep his R rating.
As for Oren Ishii, she's half Japanes/Chinese-American.
The movie did well for it's opening weekend...looks like it'll be profitable enough for Vol. II. to come out. | |
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10-16-2003, 09:30 PM
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| I can't wait to see it this weekend...the previews looked sick though! | |
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10-20-2003, 07:09 PM
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| Yes, I saw the movie. I forgot the details.
That said that does not make her "half Chinese, half Japaneesii" and "Half American".
That makes her eiter
half Japanese, a quarter Chinese and a quater American. Or,
half Chinese and a quarter Japanese and a quarter American.
You cannot have 3 halves. You can listen to the RZA song on the film's website.
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10-20-2003, 10:13 PM
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| Ok, let's try this again. 
Oren Ishii has one parent that is chinese, and the other that is japanese. Now, even though the parents are Asian they are both from the USA. So that makes them Chinese-American & Japanese-American.
That's how Oren is half chinese/Japanese. She's also an american (as in citizen, not race).
Therefore you have her being chinese/japanese-American. | |
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10-21-2003, 01:19 AM
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| hmmmmmm
And i thought this movie was
about Hillary's revenge.
ha ha  | |
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10-21-2003, 05:30 PM
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| Event Horizon,
So how does that make her only "half American"?
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10-21-2003, 09:52 PM
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| pkt, stop yanking my chain. 
Ok, she's not half American. She's all American but her parents ancestry is Chinese & Japanese.
Parent A=Chinese
Parent B=Japanese
Both parents are from the US.
Child A (Oren)=Chinese/Japanese but still American.
She's just of mixed heritage that's all. | |
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10-25-2003, 04:24 PM
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| hm. Do any of you think that if Lucie Liu wasn't the only asian star who speaks english fluently (to my knowledge), there would be less of her in the celeb world?
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10-25-2003, 04:45 PM
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| No, Lucy Liu is NOT the only HK star who speaks fluent British English.
Besides, that's an irrelevant point any way since most movie soundtracks are dubbed after the shooting in a sound studio.
Do you think Chow Yun-Fat's English is as good as you hear it in the movie?
For the longest of time movies made in HK are made with at least 3 soundtracks before the advent of DVDs: Cantonese, Mandarin and English. The same 3 languages appear as subtitle in HK...
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10-25-2003, 04:50 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Event Horizon
Ok, let's try this again.
Oren Ishii has one parent that is chinese, and the other that is japanese. Now, even though the parents are Asian they are both from the USA. So that makes them Chinese-American & Japanese-American.
That's how Oren is half chinese/Japanese. She's also an american (as in citizen, not race).
Therefore you have her being chinese/japanese-American. | So, how does that make her "half-American" as the RZA rap goes?
So what you're trying to say is that she has dual Japanese-American citizenship? I 'm not sure if Japan allows dual citizenship.
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10-25-2003, 04:55 PM
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| It is so symptomatic that "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" has displaced "Kill Bill" for top billing.
Senseless, minimal-skilled slaughter versus skilled massacre with a sword.
Anyone with some strength can wield a chain saw/gun.
Not everyone can wield a katana and still live.
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