09-24-2003, 11:03 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| get a red/yello card? or none
When you do a fleche and run off the strip would you recieve a card for avoiding getting touched?
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09-24-2003, 11:12 AM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| If you leave the strip before passing your opponent, there is a halt and you lose 1 meter.
If you pass your opponent, the halt is with the pass, and you are just placed engarde.
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09-24-2003, 11:24 AM
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| If you are using a fleche, you aren't trying to avoid being touched. You're attacking. So no card if you go off after you pass, and no card if you go off before the pass.
darius has the right of it.
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09-24-2003, 12:40 PM
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| Carl, I would have to agree with Darius, especially when the rule book (T-28) uses the term 'e.g. when making a fleche'. If you do not pass your opponent, you get penalized.
I can't remember what thread it was about what the difference was between the 2002 B and C editions. T-126 is completely missing from the B rule book.
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09-24-2003, 02:52 PM
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| I see what you're talking about in t.26. However, it's a judgement call of the referee to say yes he was trying to avoid a touch, and that carried him off the strip; or no, he wasn't trying to avoid a touch and it was the action of the fleche that carried him off the strip.
So while I can see what you're saying, and I must say that a card is possible, it would have to be pretty obviously avoiding a touch (with much twisting of body in my mind) to call it a cardable offense.
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09-24-2003, 04:52 PM
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| Generally speaking, you can only get this card on defense (or when you've lost ROW). Most often you will see this when moving backwards, though it is also possible to do moving forwards. If you do this during your opponent's riposte, you'll be picking up a card. | |
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09-24-2003, 05:43 PM
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| Re: get a red/yello card? or none
Quote: Originally posted by frenzl
When you do a fleche and run off the strip would you recieve a card for avoiding getting touched? | frenzl,
It all depends on what the fleching fencer did.
If his action is interpreted by the ref that he ran off the piste to avoid getting hit, then yes, t.28 will apply.
But if in the process of finishing his fleche, he ran off the piste, then t.26 would apply.
It all depends.
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09-24-2003, 06:04 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
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| waaait... so, if you get into close quarters (infighting distance), and find yourself being bound up, its illegal to "run past"?
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09-24-2003, 06:30 PM
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#9 | | Armorer
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| No, that is taken up by T-29.
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09-24-2003, 10:27 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| You're allowed to run past the opponent at any time (and on any side). You just can't leave the strip to avoid being hit...generally speaking, run passed before you leave the strip. | |
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09-25-2003, 01:18 AM
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| Thank God... moment of panic. I know that its cardable to step off the strip to stop the action to avoid a hit, but I misconstrued the above comment. Thanks! | |
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