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    The Democrat States of Canada?

    Topic for your consideration.
    Or: Blame Canada AGAIN?

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ent/TopStories


    Can we Democrats be your next province?

    By PAUL LEWIS
    Monday, September 22, 2003 - Page A17


    Having endured the outrages of the 2000 presidential "election" and the 9/11-empowered Republicans' reactionary policies, progressive Democrats, Greens and Independents across the United States are smouldering. Especially in the 20 states that went for Al Gore in the Northeast, Midwest, and West, more and more of us are appalled by the combination of dishonest rhetoric, regressive tax giveaways, international adventurism, environmental degradation and unprecedented arrogance spewing from the President and his congressional cohorts.

    We look to Washington and hear -- rather than solutions for pressing problems -- little but sound bites and lies, the all-too-familiar litany about weapon-finding, children leaving, job growing, tax cutting, Arctic drilling, missile defending, and terrorist hunting.

    In stunned disbelief, we have signed petitions, given money to progressive causes, and joined street protests. But arghhh! and aarghhh! again, many of us have had it. We're fed up and need to move on -- or out. But where to go?

    A map of the state-by-state voting in 2000 suggests the obvious answer. With the anomalous and proud exception of New Mexico, Gore states are contiguous either to Canada or to other Gore states. In the most peaceful and democratic way, without invoking images of Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee, these states need to secede from the Union, reform into provinces and join Canada.

    As soon as one considers the idea, the advantages become obvious. Citizens of the new Canadian provinces would enjoy basic entitlements and benefits unheard of in the U.S., including: universal health care; good and affordable colleges and universities; good mass transit in major cities; lower rates of violent crime and pollution; affordable prescription drugs; and enhanced respect for the civil rights of all people, including gays and lesbians.

    And this is just the beginning. Imagine the efficiencies of scale that will result from combining several states, with their redundant and quarrelsome governments, into single provinces. Through a process of state-by-state referendums, California, Oregon and Washington could reform into Naturia; New England (minus the odious New Hampshire) could reform into Nontario; Wisconsin, Minnesota,

    Iowa, Michigan, and Illinois could become Coolcentria; while the eastern states between New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, D.C., could become

    Atlantica.

    The fact that the U.S. capital had the good sense to back Al Gore and will, thus, need to join Canada under this plan is, admittedly, an awkward detail in need of negotiation. No doubt the Bush diplomats who are making such impressive progress on an Israeli-Palestinian deal will be able to apply what they've learned in solving the Jerusalem dilemma to this problem.

    Alluding to the Middle East reminds us of one of the greatest benefits of joining Canada, a nation that has far fewer enemies than the United States. After declaring their affiliation with a country that respects the United Nations Charter, the newly created provinces would be far less likely to draw the wrath of international terrorists.

    On purely aesthetic grounds, the benefits are enormous. We new Canadians will (shortly) acquire a national leader capable of producing coherent sentences in at least two languages. We will leave behind a U.S. composed of increasingly polluted semi-tropical and desert states inhabited by citizens hell-bent on posting the Ten Commandments in public washrooms, installing a Star Wars defence system around fast-food restaurants, and generally doing what they can to bring on the Apocalypse. Meanwhile, we new Canadians will look north to vast, undeveloped lands where animals roam and cool breezes waft down from the Arctic. Henceforth, our musically challenged children will sing not the incomprehensible and operatic Star Spangled Banner but the rousing anthem O Canada.

    And just imagine what it will be like not to wake up every morning to the news that your federal government has subverted another international treaty, undermined another environmental protection, given another tax refund to the wealthy or invaded another defenceless country. To be citizens once more of a nation at peace with the world and committed to social justice and environmental conservation.

    Ah, America.

    O, Canada!

    Paul Lewis, a professor of English at Boston College, teaches courses on American literature and culture.

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    ...and if that doesn't work, we can all just move there.

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    Now, why would Canada want a bunch of whiny cry-babies, anyway?

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    Originally posted by Inquartata
    Now, why would Canada want a bunch of whiny cry-babies, anyway?
    Because they - the whiny babies - are just like us Canadians.


    Betcha didn't expect that answer.

    If you're at any gathering of Candians outside of Cda, guess what you'll hear: *****ing about the gov't.

    Yet, we'd still prefer to have a more powerful gov't than the average American'd prefer.
    afterall, we're a bunch of small-s socialists.

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    Sounds more like Americanizing Canada than Canadianizing Democratic America... But maybe I didn't understand the article well...

    And I am a Canadian and don't whine about the government! Don't compare them to me!

    By the way, when I am a part of a gathering of Canadians outside of Canada it"s usually because I,m at a fencing tournament, and guess what we whine about.... THE CFF!

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    Originally posted by Shena
    Sounds more like Americanizing Canada than Canadianizing Democratic America...

    So, it's sort of like the idea behind the Free State movement?

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    Unworkable, but funny. I want to respond to one point...

    The article by Lewis states "On purely aesthetic grounds, the benefits are enormous. We new Canadians will (shortly) acquire a national leader capable of producing coherent sentences in at least two languages."

    He obviously hasn't spent much time listening to Jean Cretien lately! Political bafflegab at its best. (Unless, of course, he is was referring to our 'king-in-waiting', Paul Martin, who can speak coherently in both official languages, in addition to bafflegab).

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    I for one am willing to concede the ability to speak in complete sentences in favor of knowing left from right.

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    Originally posted by Shena
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    And I am a Canadian and don't whine about the government! Don't compare them to me!

    By the way, when I am a part of a gathering of Canadians outside of Canada it"s usually because I,m at a fencing tournament, and guess what we whine about.... THE CFF!
    We went to Mexico for a week 3 times. somehow we gravitated to sharing our dinner table with fellow Cdns. Eventually th etopic drift to complaining about the Gov't.

    Ditto at other non-fencing gatherings... in spite of the 3 verboten subjects: religion, women and politics, in polite gatherings.

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    Graham,

    Touche'. But Uncle Jean is more the exception because o his physical impediment.
    Can you imagine someone like him being elected to be POTUS?
    ... the flawed image, the flawed speech...
    I think we're going to miss him.

    PK

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