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Old 09-16-2003, 11:25 PM   #1
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Hey PKT....I know your quite left of center on the political/social scene...but come on......!!!



Taken from the CTV Newsnet on September 17, 2003:

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CTV.ca News Staff

Ottawa doesn't know how to grow marijuana. That's the verdict from some of the first patients to smoke Health Canada's government-approved pot.

Three of the 10 people approved to use government marijuana for medical purposes say the drug is no good -- and they want their money back.

Jim Wakeford, 58, is an AIDS patient in Gibsons, B.C. He says the pot he got from Ottawa was well below grade.

"It's not marijuana, it's ground-up stems, twigs and beads and it's not fit for human consumption," he said.

"It gave me a slight buzziness for about three to five minutes, and that was it. I got no other effect from it."

Barrie Dalley, 52, who uses marijuana to combat the nausea associated with AIDS, said his experience with the Health Canada dope actually made him sick to his stomach.

Both Dalley and Wakeford are returning their 30-gram bags. Dalley is demanding his money back -- $150 plus taxes.

A third AIDS patient, Jari Dvorak, 62, says he's also unhappy with the product. "I'm still smoking it. I would prefer better, but it's all I've got," Dvorak said.

The marijuana is being grown on behalf of Health Canada in a vacant mine buried deep under Flin Flon, Manitoba. Prairie Plant Systems won a $5.75-million contract to grow marijuana Ottawa had intended to be studied to demonstrate whether or not cannabis is medically effective.

The department was compelled to begin distributing the pot to patients in July, after an Ontario order said patients should not be forced to buy the drug on the streets or from authorized growers forced to obtain seeds illegally.

On Monday, Canadians for Safe Access -- a patients' rights group that is pressing for supplies of safe, effective marijuana -- issued its own criticism of the government pot.

"This particular product wouldn't hold a candle to street level cannabis," spokesperson Philippe Lucas said.

His group conducted laboratory tests that indicated the Health Canada product has only about three per cent THC -- far short of the 10.2 per cent advertised.


In response, a spokesperson for Health Canada said the department can't accept laboratory findings from anonymous facilities.

"We question the validity of the test results because Canadians for Safe Access has been unwilling to reveal who did the testing, and when the testing was done, and under what conditions," Krista Apse said. She added that the approved cannabis was only released after it was submitted to rigorous quality tests.

But Dalley contends the proof was in the pudding -- it was the pot's poor potency that made him so sick, he threw up.

"It made me nauseous because I had to use so much of it," Dalley said. "It was so weak in potency that I really threw up."

No patients have complained directly to Health Canada so far, Apse said, and the department will not accept returns or provide refunds.

With a report from The Canadian Press
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why don't they just give them the illegal pot they seize?

granted, some of it is laced... but one would think they'd be able to find some good pot that wasn't laced out of everything they've ever confiscated...

and then they wouldn't have to bother growing it....
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Wow. We're responsible for reporting three news articles every day; this one will be great.
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why don't they just give them the illegal pot they seize?

granted, some of it is laced... but one would think they'd be able to find some good pot that wasn't laced out of everything they've ever confiscated...

and then they wouldn't have to bother growing it....


Liability......imagine if something got through. The same people demanding more potent pot would be sueing the government for millions. However, our law enforcement groups regularily have auctions selling seized goods.....hmmmm. Maybe your onto something!!
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http://www.satirewire.com/news/feb02/warship.shtml


CANADIAN WARSHIP SEIZES TANKER IN... WAIT...
CANADA HAS A WARSHIP?
Oh Right, and Switzerland Has Nuclear Weapons

Arabian Sea (SatireWire.com) — Canadian television reported Friday that a Canadian warship in the Arabian Sea had seized a tanker suspected of smuggling oil from Iraq, leading many to suspect that the report was a hoax...
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hey, dogg,

that's quite well written. They got the gist of what Canadians aspire to be: understated.
"They were armed. With guns," said Omari [The captain of the seized tanker.] "Canadians. With guns. And a warship. What is this world coming to?"

"They were pretty rude, too," Omari added. "They started asking us all sorts of questions, like 'Where did that oil come from?' But first we wanted to know who gave them the damn warship."
LOL. We built that ourselves.

Canada not only have warships, Canada also have submarines. These were bought used from the UK...what a leaky bucket of bolts these are.

Canadians believe in QULAITY, not quantity! Ha! N.B. the foto shows the Halifax Class frigate Vancouver named after the city I live in.



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Left of centre - read small-l liberal - that I am, I don't agree with the Feds getting involved in the growing of MJ.
In putting the Fed grow-op in Flin Flon the Feds have intentionall or un- gave the BC grow industry a serious slap in the face.

while the MJ users contend that BC Gold is THE best in the world, the Feds, for reasons of control - control of the grow site and control of the qulaity of the product - chose Flin Flon...

The latest in the MJ grow op industry - yes, it is an industry that rivals the tourism industry in BC - is of course the Quebecoise MJ growers are using DND - Department of National Defence - lands to grow MJ!!! The gall.

[Yes, dogg, Canada do have a Department of Defence as well as soldiera, four of whom were killed and many injured by Major Schmidt of the Air National Guard in Afghanistan because he felt threatened by small arms fire on the ground while 'patrolling at 30,000 ft!]

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