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Serena 36 Minutes ago, Serena, Tennis Pro was shot to death. This was posted on the front page of Yahoo, I am reading the news now. Cops are trying to get 3 people involved with her shooting death, I can't believe it! The octopus was a symbol of the Early Roman Empire.
Epee is a weapon of deceit and guile. You tend to take your time and counter-attack. You can touch your opponent anywhere at any time.
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Wow, I just went to CNN to see if there was an article on that too. That's just really horrible. I hope they catch those bastards.
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Story I saw said it was an older sister, not Serena or Venus....
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Yeah, I jumped when I saw the cnn.com (a/k/a Chicken Noodle News) headline too. It was "Sister of Serena, Venus Williams fatally shot." The headline now says "Sister of Venus and Serena Williams killed."
English is a tricky thing.
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I'll have to keep watching this, this was unbelieveable, I was in shock, they're both so amazing, I could never decide who I liked best. If it were either one it would bring the whole tennis world into a horrible space, but whoever it was, this is no good, people are just getting killed over nothing. The octopus was a symbol of the Early Roman Empire.
Epee is a weapon of deceit and guile. You tend to take your time and counter-attack. You can touch your opponent anywhere at any time.
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Sad how low some people stup for this reason or that. I know my family's and my prayers are with the Williams'. "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory." - George S. Patton
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It was the older sister of Serena and Venus. Every violent life taken is a sad day for humanity. I feel sorry for their family.
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Her name was Yetunde Price, sister, Personal assistant to both Serena and Venus, and Publisist for Serena. Well said JEC. "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory." - George S. Patton
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How sad... I am very shocked. ... without remorse for the past, confident in the present, and full of hope for the future, [d'artagnan] went to bed and slept the sleep of the brave.
- The Three Musketeers
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Yes, I saw the correct information later on, I jumped so fast onto it, I was upset as soon as I saw the story,the names weren't clear at first. I can't believe it still, the community here is predominanetly african-american and they look a little shook. The octopus was a symbol of the Early Roman Empire.
Epee is a weapon of deceit and guile. You tend to take your time and counter-attack. You can touch your opponent anywhere at any time.
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I'm likely to tick some people off with this statement, but it's something that I see a lot of and it annoys me:
Famous person (or famous person's brother's cousin's former roommate) gets killed. Result: Immediate outrage, shock, what kind of society do we live in questions, top of page headline.
Random person on the street gets killed. Result: page 17 obit. Ho hum. Want to grab some coffee?
I know that the reason for this is that having someone identifiable makes the story more relatable, but it still bothers me.
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Not to brown nose, but I'm on Craig's side. I take it a little further though. I don't care about Kobe's trial and what's going to be allowed and what's not going to be allowed -- why don't we talk about serious issues. I don't care about a politicians personal life -- is he/she running the country fine? Yes, then who cares who he/she is sleeping with. No, is the answer, fine, who cares whoe he/she is sleeping with. Ben broke it off with J.Lo? Fine, but because of the assassination, what's the effect on Sweden's Foreign policy to the world?
Ok, I'll get off of my soap box...
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The only reason I care about the personal life of anybody in power - down to my commanding officer here - is what it indicates about their integrity. If a married politician (most of them are) is sleeping around, he's obviously a little low on integrity. What would stop him, then, from trying to get a little generosity from the system?
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I agree with Craig as well. Though both mifencer and soldier have good points. I could see touching a little bit into their personal life, as soldier said to check up on their integrity, but on the other hand you also have the right of personal privesy. I could go both ways on that one. "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory." - George S. Patton
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Many of the great leaders in history had affairs -- Churchhill, FDR, Martin Luther King, Thomas Jefferson... perhaps it's a trait that we should look for in our presidents!
Nobody is perfect; I'd rather that public figures make their mistakes in the bedroom than the boardroom. Cheating on one's wife affects your family, but cheating on the country (and using my tax money to do so) affects me.
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Iwant2bafencer: I agree what you say in theory, but historically some of the best leaders didn't always have the highest integrity in their personally life:
Churchhill: alcoholic
Rosevelt & JFK: womanizers WHILE in office
Jefferson: slave owner, womanizer
Washington: slave owner
Hoover (maybe not the best leader): cross dresser
Hitler: didn't drink; didn't smoke; promoted (certain) family
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Originally posted by Soldier The only reason I care about the personal life of anybody in power - down to my commanding officer here - is what it indicates about their integrity. If a married politician (most of them are) is sleeping around, he's obviously a little low on integrity. What would stop him, then, from trying to get a little generosity from the system? Well, Thomas Jefferson slept with his slaves. George Washington had a mistress. FDR had a mistress. JFK slept around. Those are just the ones that I've seen confirmation of. The general view is that every president has slept around/had a mistress, but that the press allowed that to be off limits until recently, so now it seems like it's a problem with modern presidents.
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Aye mifencer, but like darius said, nobody's perfect right? Some of them or all depending on your opinion were great leaders besides their faults. I just don't see why we should weigh everything on who sleeps with who etc. Weigh the bad against the good. Sometimes good prevails, sometimes bad. "Wars may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men. It is the spirit of men who follow and of the man who leads that gains the victory." - George S. Patton
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I don't care about a politicians personal life -- is he/she running the country fine? Yes, then who cares who he/she is sleeping with. No, is the answer, fine, who cares whoe he/she is sleeping with.
Yes but if the president commits perjury then i care.
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Originally posted by afc fencer Yes but if the president commits perjury then i care. True. But if they weren't under stupid scrutiny, he wouldn't have to. Instead of "there was something on her dress and she kept it in her closet for a couple months" (eeewww); how about: the WTO made so big businesses can control......
I have NO party biases. If anything, I'm more of a Republican. I'm not going to get into a political debate over this. I’d just rather hear news and policy making v. sensationalistic journalism.
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