cold steel up the arm

[sallearmourer]

My 12 year daughter Jenny was fencing her 14 year brother last night in sabre and her blade enter the hole in his glove and went the legnth of the arm with leaving a mark.


Tim Loomis


www.yeoldearmourer.com

[wflaschka]

Ask her for some lotto numbers!

She sounds very lucky! Glad no one was hurt (if I read that right).

[swordsen]

Broken and unbroken that has happened to me several times over the years. Surprisingly enough it happens more in foil than in epee. I don't do saber so....

[zeidolon]

Now, Im weirded out.

This happened to me last night in foil. My glove is one size too large, which is probably why this happened. Opponent's foil caught on the back of the glove right at the wrist area and then poked right through. I was trying to keep some distance so the foil didnt run up the length of my arm, maybe just two inches or so.

All the same, kinda freaky to happen after its mentioned here on the boards.

zeidolon

[pkt]

sallearmnourer,

Gald to hear she didn't get even bruised.

Originally posted by zeidolon
Now, Im weirded out.

This happened to me last night in foil. My glove is one size too large, which is probably why this happened. Opponent's foil caught on the back of the glove right at the wrist area and then poked right through. I was trying to keep some distance so the foil didnt run up the length of my arm, maybe just two inches or so.
...

zeidolon

Robert,
Either the gauntlet of your glove is too loose or your jacket's sleeve is too short, I'd correct the fault to prevent this from happening again if I were you. I hope you'll do this before we have to write your obit for you...or ybefore you lose the use of your arm: difficult to type with one hand.


In all these years of fencing -touch wood, - I've been lucky with the glove/sleeve.
I've got opponents breaking their foil blades on my chest before kevlar or even ballistic nylon, again - touch wood - not even my lame' got punctured.

I did however got bloodied quite a few times by sabreurs who did windmill ripostes to the left cheek of my mask thus whipping the point around to the back of my head and drawing blood.

Consequently, when I ref, I throw out masks that are too small for the fencer even though it might have passed the punch test: If you can see the wearer's ears poking out the back edge of the mask...

I don't want to see blood on the piste I ref!

PK

[Peach]

I've had blood drawn, always by left-handed fencers who hit me on the back hand, heaven knows why. (I'm right handed, so that hand is the farthest away).

Dave Mandell told us the story a few weeks ago of how he got his chest punctured by Peter Westbrook's broken blade. All they could see was a spot of blood on the front of his jacket, and Dave said they shouldn't bother to call 911 and headed for the stairs. Meanwhile, Peter, staring at the three or four inches of the end of the broken blade which were bloody, called 911 anyway. Dave collapsed on the landing. His lung was punctured and he spent a week in the hospital. We asked him, "How long did it take you to recover, Dave?"

"Well, I won the National Championship the next year, if that's any indication."

Then he stopped telling horror stories and went back to imitating Yoda.

He's one of the left-handers who has battered my back hand, BTW. Though he balanced it by thwacking my weapon hand so badly that for about a year I couldn't open jars, so I guess it's not because he's left-handed, just that I have a habit of leaving body parts a little too close when he's closing distance.

[zeidolon]

Pkt,

It was the gauntlet of the glove actually (too loose and floppy). I was asked for my shoe size when I ordered my starter kit (10 and a half) and they sent me an XL glove (go figure). Even after soaking it in water and letting it shring, its still quite loose (new glove should be here soon).

But yeah, I can't afford to lose my hands/fingers. I spend too much time on the computer working and of course, I play sax : P

[pkt]

Robert,

Till your new glove arrives, you can
1. resort to using a double-sided velcro strap or
2. if you're handy with needle and thread, sew a piece of velcro on the gautlet.

In the meantime, learn to parry EVERYTHING, eh!

Take care,

PK

[pammie003]

I have a lovely scar on the inside of my right elbow from the same thing... it was the first blood drawn in years at my club.

The result: a new glove. I had been fencing in a cheap one with a shorter gauntlet, but I now have a new red and white one. Until the new one arrived, duct tape was a part of my fencing ensemble! I would put my body wire, jacket and glove on, and then duct tape over the hole. Not the most sophisicated look, I'm afraid.

[pkt]

The tings one can do with duct tapes:
I actually won a book from Reg Green for suggesting some 'new' uses of duct tape:
1. as a garter to hold up the knee socks and
2. as varnish remover from taping down the psite.

That said, one should ALWAYS keep one's equipment at tip top shape, if not, at least in good repairs.

Getting hurt is no fun.
Furthermore, it freaks out the person who injure you.

PK

[MyraTrue]

*grimmace of pain* Sooo.... PKT, you tried that garter idea yourself? I'm just trying to picture the taking it OFF at the end of the tournament. Specially for men...

Stuff of life, that duct tape! Athletic tape too... hm... tip tape... floor tape... a possible trend? The tape industry must make a fortune!

[Sabresque]

Demon Fencer, any thoughts? Mwa ha ha ha.

(Don't mind this post, people. It makes sense. Really. )

[demon_fencer]

Yes Sabresque,

I think that you need to provide lessons on how to run your sabre through the wrist of a brand new sabre glove and up your opponent's arm without leaving bruises or drawing blood...

twice...

two different gloves...

Maybe you should change your name to Epeesque

[pkt]

Originally posted by MyraTrue
*grimmace of pain* Sooo.... PKT, you tried that garter idea yourself? I'm just trying to picture the taking it OFF at the end of the tournament. Specially for men...

Stuff of life, that duct tape! Athletic tape too... hm... tip tape... floor tape... a possible trend? The tape industry must make a fortune!

Hahaha! Myra, wrong race:
I'm Chinese hence practically hairless!
[Is there a better antonym to hirsute?]

Besides, since I chided Robert for not keeping his glove in good repairs in this thread, and my penchant to card people in tournaments for having no knee socks or socks that fall down, it won't do for me to do otherwise but to profess that my competition socks STAY UP! Hence no need for garter of any kind.

[The foto of Lemberg and I fencing: http://www.fencing101.com/Photo_Gall..._Lemberg_n_PKT
was taken during practice and one of the 30C+ days in July...too bad the foto's too dark that you can't tell if there's hair on my legs or not?]

Most of the duct tapes one can get are not the original duct tape.
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...ry=1,110,43466

Talking tape:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...ry=1,110,43466
gaffer's tape, leaves no residue behind as duct tapes do. whether it's as sticky as duct tapes, I'll have to find out.

PK

[corinna2u]

Is there a better antonym to hirsute?]

bald

[Inquartata]

Glabrous?

[MyraTrue]

PKT- well said! *laughing* I had this image of the majority of male epeeists in my old club, all hairy monsters, all with sock problems. I'd almost pay to see them use duct tape!

I myself am only 5'6", so that I've never had trouble with socks being too short. I have to roll tops back down so they dont go 7 inches past my knee sometimes... never understood socks not staying on, even though I've seen it often enough.

[Indy4ever]

I have a friend who is 6 foot 7 so he has a great deal of trouble getting his socks up to his knees. There is always a massive gap, even when he stretches them as far as they will go! He managed to get some big ones once, but lost them immediately! Poor lad

[Gav]

At a recent tourney I fenced another memeber of these forums (Haggis) I managed to stick my Epee up his sleeve and when we had a closer look there was a stripe up his arm but nothing too damaging. Later on the bruising had come up - a nice purple stripe all the way up his arm.

At a tourney I was at last week a one fencers blade broke and went through his opponents jacket and plastron and left a 3 inch cut along his chest. He was very lucky he wasn't seriously injured. But was very unlucky in that he had to pay for a new jacket and plastron on the spot.

[Boo Boo]

When I was fencing (foil) on Tuesday night, I was wearing tracksuit bottoms (naughty, maybe, but I do for training)...

My opponent's blade (Gav will know srb from another forum) went between my jacket and tracksuit bottoms, under my t-shirt, down my tracksuit bottoms, down my shorts and down my underwear. I now have a raised red stripe down my backside... (not a war wound that I am able to show anyone...)

Rather uncomfortable, a bit alarming and very surprising that the blade (fortunately not broken) managed to get through quite so many layers of clothing...

Boo