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Old 11-26-2002, 08:27 PM   #1
Warren and Jackie Cabral
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Re: [CFML] 19th century fencing-back to you


Jonathan--=20
You might want to take a peek at Maestro William Gaugler's "History of Fenc=
ing", which may or may not have exactly what you're looking for...He does a=
great job on both the personalities of Fencing and the Schools of the vari=
ous periods, particularly the Italian schools, It has been awhile since I =
read it, but you may also be able to pick up some idea of how bouts were co=
nducted.=20
A lot of our 20th Century rules were agreed on back around 1913 or so, and =
a lot of Fencing previous to that relied heavily on Form for scoring purpos=
es. (Quite a contrast to what we have today, isn't it?!) I believe that F=
orm was a huge factor in scoring the Fencing tournaments of the 1896 Olympi=
c Games, but there is no doubt that more realistic swordplay was conducted =
as well. The whole concept of Right of Way in Foil was originally based on=
what would happen if someone thrusted at you with a 'sharp', and how you w=
ould realistically deal with it...(and again, 'modern' sport Fencing doesn'=
t have a clue!) Fencers Quarterly Magazine (FQM), edited by Maestro Nick E=
vangelista, sometimes has some good articles on subjects like this, but it =
is often 'catch-as-catch can', so to speak. Now if you want a good early 2=
0th Century source, J.M. Castello's "Theory and Practice of Fencing' has an=
AFLA/F.I.E. Rule book of Fencing for all three weapons in the Appendix! (A=
gain, worlds apart from what is considered to be Fencing today by far too m=
any.) It's a stretch, but that source might give you an idea closer to the=
period you want.=20
Regards,=20
Warren Cabral,=20
Fencing Instructor=20
Jonathan Carr <joncarr@datasync.com> wrote: BlankI am trying to research e=
arly 19th century fencing (1800-1850). It seems that many of the manuals of=
the period describe how and what actions were taught, but I am not finding=
much information on what an actual fencing bout might have been like. Were=
there standards for such things as target area, length of the strip, etc? =
Was the scoring system and jury comparable to modern =93dry=94 fencing? Wha=
t was the action like? My impression was that there was less advancing and =
retreating, more fencing from blade contact. I would be interested on peopl=
e=92s insights on this, or a direction for further research.=20

Jonathan Carr



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