Dear all,
on the lunge subject, there are also pictures of boxers lunging on ancient
greek vases. I think it's probably as old as any martial art isn't it - if
not older. If the body can do it, it's probably a safe assumption that it
was being used somewhere.
I'm not saying it wasn't present in the Elizabethan period, just that from
what we know it wasn't particularly favoured. Until fencing gets linear its
a bit crap really isn't it? - launching yourself straight at your opponent
and ending in a position that it's difficult to retreat from?
True Silver does give us the Bartholomew anecdote - but he's not the most
reliable person to give an unprejudiced account of anything involving an
Italian Maestro is he? And even if it's true, you're making a huge leap to a
conclusion if you think that Saviolo saying he can thrust two foot further
than any Englishman neccessarily means via a lunge. I'm not saying it
doesn't mean that but a lunge is not implicit in that statement.
I should qualify what I was talking about. I think Saviolo certainly teaches
us how to deal with a lunge but the nearest I think he comes to using it is
as a crooked or sloped pace - yeah, it takes the space of two steps so in
those terms is a lunge but, I don't think it's the same move a modern fencer
is talking about - and that's all I was saying. The fact that it's not
straight on ,alone, would mean at least defining it as a sloped or crooked
lunge, and the mechanics are then changed.
But that's just me.
All the best,
Alister
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