> I can. I'll give you a hint, while lunge is currently a noun in English,

it
> comes from the Italian adjective lunga, meaning long. Something cannot be

a
> long. It must be a long something. Giganti's lunge (credited by some as
> being the first properly described lunge) is called the stoccata lunga. If
> we translate the word lunga into English and correct the word order for
> that language we get long stoccata. You will find the term long stoccata
> first mentioned on page 29 verso of Saviolo (under the third

illustration).

My reading of stoccata lunga seems to describe a passing move, what a
modern fencer would call a cross, but a dancer still calls a pass :-).

A modern lunge isn't a passing move.

So when did the pass disappear from the move?

Plus I find a rapier a bit too heavy to lunge with, you can't (well I
can't) change direction fast enough.

--
William Black
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