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    Shoes and sizing

    So I'm looking to buy a pair of fencing shoes soon. I've got a couple of things I'd like to know before I place an order. First of all, with Adidas shoes (esp D'Artagnan), how does the sizing work. While I normally wear a size 12, I've noticed that Adidas shoes in general tend to run about 1/2 to 1 size small. My Adidas running shoes were a 13 I think (a bit big), and my old soccer cleats are a 13 (EU 48). The thing is, if I order from fechtsport-langenkamp, I don't want to worry about returning equipment overseas because it doesn't fit.

    An alternative to the Adidas shoes could be the chinese fencing shoes at The Fencing Post (http://www.thefencingpost.com/Pictures/Shoes/CS20.JPG). These aren't even on the review section. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried them. Thanks

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    The adidas shoes I wear are half a size smaller than my New Balance sneakers. Hope that helps.

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    Re: Shoes and sizing

    Originally posted by DrDoom


    An alternative to the Adidas shoes could be the chinese fencing shoes at The Fencing Post (http://www.thefencingpost.com/Pictures/Shoes/CS20.JPG). These aren't even on the review section. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried them. Thanks
    The post shoes pale in comparison to the adidas. You do get what you pay for, even if the Adidas are a bit overpriced.

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    I haven't tried the Adidas, but the Ni-Ling ones worked fine for me. Mine fit perfectly at 12 while I wear an 11.5 New Balance sneaker.

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    i normally wear a us size 12. when i ordered my D'Artagnan from fechtsport-langenkamp, i ordered a 11.5. as it turns out, fechtsport-langenkamp goes by uk sizes for shoes, so my D'Artagnans are labled as us size 12. they fit very well with no complaints. hope this helps

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    Ahh, thank's a lot. I thought they might be listing the UK sizes.

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    Has anyone tried the shoes made by Estoc? The maker of the shoes claims to have built the world's finiest fencing shoe. I need to have some feed back on them.
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    Estoc shoes... have a friend with the, swears by them. But its only second-hand.

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    Estoc Shoes Experiences

    I bought a pair of Estoc high tops for my 9-year-old about a year ago. While he liked the comfort and construction, he wasn't very happy with the sole -- doing most of his fencing on hard surfaces at local tournaments he found them to be a bit slippery as they got dusty.
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    Re: Estoc Shoes Experiences

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    -- doing most of his fencing on hard surfaces at local tournaments he found them to be a bit slippery as they got dusty.
    Scott,
    Have you tried a damp towel next to the strip? There is also a product that we use in our club called Fast Break (we have a wood floor). I saw it in Colorado at the OTC last year. It is an adhesive film that the athlete steps on to remove dust.
    Almost any shoe will slip on a hard surface when there is a layer of dust on the sole.
    Let me know if you need more info on the Fast Break.
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    Scott,

    Yes, we tried a damp towel, but my kid would always forget to wipe down the soles at the start of his bouts. He seems to be having better luck with a pair of Adidas shoes that we picked up at the Nationals in Austin.
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    Originally posted by MyraTrue
    Estoc shoes... have a friend with the, swears by them. But its only second-hand.

    Myra

    I've had a pair of the Estoc high tops for about eighteen months. I got them when my son was at the JOs in Columbus. Putting them on was a revelation for my feet. They are much more comfortable than my old Adidas high tops. They have a bit more room in the toe area, but the support is still good.

    I agree that they can get slippery on a dusty wood floor (what shoe doesn't?), but the damp towel (actually, I use a damp car chamois: works better, stays damp without dripping all over the floor) usually does the trick.

    My only complaints: they're a bit flashy (maybe even clownish) looking, and mine are worn out so I need to buy a new pair.

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    My only complaints: they're a bit flashy (maybe even clownish) looking, and mine are worn out so I need to buy a new pair.
    Paolo
    Do you think the red is the problem? I have told them they need to tone it back down. At one time they had a simple white and subtle blue color sceme. But it might have looked to much like Adidas. The red does diffenently set them apart.
    Thanks for the feed back!
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    Originally posted by Swordmaster
    Do you think the red is the problem? I have told them they need to tone it back down. At one time they had a simple white and subtle blue color sceme. But it might have looked to much like Adidas. The red does diffenently set them apart.
    Thanks for the feed back!
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    Yeah, I think that's the problem. Between the colors and the straps, it looks mighty busy down there.

    One thing is for sure, people know when you're wearing them.


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    Does anyone know anything about BG Victory Low Top Fencing Shoes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDoom
    An alternative to the Adidas shoes could be the chinese fencing shoes at The Fencing Post (http://www.thefencingpost.com/Pictures/Shoes/CS20.JPG). These aren't even on the review section. Just wondering if anyone has ever tried them. Thanks
    They were my first pair of fencing shoes. At $30, they were a good deal. (They might have been on sale.) After about a year, the soles wore down until they were completely smooth. But they were already too small for me at that point, so I didn't mind.

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    BG Victory Fencing Shoes

    Does Anyone Know Anything About Bg Victory Low Top Fencing Shoes????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordmaster
    Has anyone tried the shoes made by Estoc? The maker of the shoes claims to have built the world's finiest fencing shoe. I need to have some feed back on them.
    Thanks,
    Scott
    When they were first made, Estoc sponsored Eric Srecki. They had a great ad, a picture of Srecki winning a world cup or championship, I forget which, while wearing the shoes.

    I liked some of the ideas of the shoe, like the removable insole, and cushion, but the people I knew who bought it, hated it. One wore them around the house since they were comfortable, but not good for fencing. Another 2 had the sole peel off on the trailing foot within a month. And another hated the traction.

    Now, they shoe looks very different with colors, and with reinforced toe drag protection. I haven't heard anything about the new ones, but I definitely think their first attempt to gain some market share really hurt them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shango
    Does Anyone Know Anything About Bg Victory Low Top Fencing Shoes????
    Speaking only for my own experience [/disclaimer], they're cheap crap.

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