08-05-2003, 01:46 PM
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| World Champs - What do you think?
What do you think, how much chance will the Hungarian fencers have? I don't think that Marsi will do anything, but I have a feeling that Vízler, the "new hope" will cause some surprise. In women's foil - I can't think...Mohamed Aida, Varga Gabriella, Varga Katalin, I don't know. In men's epée, Boczkó and Kulcsár are in top condition, in women's I hope Kiskapusi (she's one of my friends) can do something (if she can go...). In sabre, Nemcsik, Ferjancsik, in women's Nagy Orsolya and Csaba Edina are chanceous...
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08-05-2003, 01:49 PM
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| Boczko and Ferjanczik have the best chances at medaling i think. Boczko hasn't really done well in many world cups, despite winning Euro championships.
Epee is always a crapshoot, but Ferjanczik i think has a chance to win.
And as always Hungarian's womens epee is very strong.
For team, Hungary should medal in men's and women's epee and men's sabre. I don't follow the other three weapons.
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08-05-2003, 03:06 PM
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| I'm hoping and expecting Hungary's women sabre team will redeem themselves from last year's implosion at the sixth bout against Russia. They might get the silver against the US's women's team :-)
Seriously, I'd say Hungary is likely to medal in men's and women's sabre, women's epee, and maybe women's foil. I don't think this year is a year for a Hungarian world champion in either the men's or women's <pick your> weapon individuals or team.
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08-06-2003, 01:53 AM
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| Re: World Champs - What do you think?
Quote: Originally posted by edew
I'm hoping and expecting Hungary's women sabre team will redeem themselves from last year's implosion at the sixth bout against Russia. They might get the silver against the US's women's team :-). | It would be nice to see them redeem themselves but being Hungarian and seeing us stuff up time and time after again i seriously don't think they will do it even though i would love to see them do it! Quote: Originally posted by Nusy
What do you think, how much chance will the Hungarian fencers have? I don't think that Marsi will do anything, but I have a feeling that Vízler, the "new hope" will cause some surprise. In women's foil - I can't think...Mohamed Aida, Varga Gabriella, Varga Katalin, I don't know. In men's epée, Boczkó and Kulcsár are in top condition, in women's I hope Kiskapusi (she's one of my friends) can do something (if she can go...) | Yeah Nusy we are so stuffed for mens foil its is the biggest joke hopefully at least one will make the 64 tableau
I think Boczkó will choke he fenced so poorly at the Sydney World Cup i am hoping that was owing to the fact they arrived the day before and jet lag kicked in...im temas i reckon anywher form 2nd - 5th
In womens foil i reckon Aida will make the top 8 but thats about it i really would like it if Varga Kati would make the top 8 even medal seeing as she was fab fencer in juniors but has found that form at all in seniors
In womens epee a top 8 result or medal would be fab but i think they will fall out in the round of 16 and 32 as they have done in the past 2 years in teams if Hormay Adri, Toth Hajni and Mincza Ildi fence well they can win it seeing as Nagy usually rise to the challenge but either is fencing inconsistently as TOth and Hormay did at challenge Australia they will come 4th!
Mens Sabre i hope Nemcsik is back so he can cause and upset and win, team wise anywher from 2-nd to 7th i can't see them beating Russia though u can never say never!
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08-06-2003, 07:47 AM
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| In women's epee, there is also Hajnalka KIRALY who used to be Hungarian. She married a French guy and is now competing for France, but a medal from her would have to be credited to Hungary as well, she's at least still Hungarian by heart!
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08-07-2003, 01:30 AM
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| Nusy,
I really feel that the Hungarian women's epee team should win gold at the world championships.I also think Ildiko Mincza is still one of the best fencers in the world,and might win the world championships in the individual women's epee,but that's probably just wishful thinking on my part.In women's individual foil I think Gabriella Varga and/or Mohamed Aida just might surprise everyone and win a medal.In women's team foil I think Hungary should finish in the top five,maybe even win a medal.In women's sabre Hungary should win gold in both the individual and team events.Nemcsik seems to be fencing well and might win gold in the individual men's sabre event,and Hungary could win gold in the team event as well.I don't think Hungary has a chance to medal in the men's team or individual foil events.In men's individual epee Kulcsar could medal,but I doubt that will happen,although Hungary could medal in the team event.If Milanoli wins the world championship,Hungary could take consolation in the fact that his coach is Hungarian.
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08-07-2003, 02:37 AM
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| Quote: Originally posted by veeco
In women's epee, there is also Hajnalka KIRALY who used to be Hungarian. She married a French guy and is now competing for France, but a medal from her would have to be credited to Hungary as well, she's at least still Hungarian by heart! | True i even remember her husband Patrick yelling out gyerunk which mean come one during of her bouts! | |
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08-07-2003, 12:15 PM
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| Nemczick will not win the individual event. It will be either Podzniakov, Covaliu, Smart (maybe), Montano or maybe Ferjaniczik, another Hungarian. Nemczik will be lucky to make the 4. | |
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08-07-2003, 12:21 PM
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| Tarantino and Pillet could also play the troublemakers...
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08-07-2003, 12:28 PM
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| Smart can wreck both Tarantino and Pillet. he destroyed Pillet in the team final in NYC, and if the current point standings hold, they run into each other in the 8. Tarantino will run into Ferjanczik, who is a superior fencer and beat him in the finals of Orebro earlier in the year, wherever that is (i'm just looking at the sabre standings right now). | |
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08-07-2003, 12:36 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by a517dogg
Smart can wreck both Tarantino and Pillet. he destroyed Pillet in the team final in NYC, and if the current point standings hold, they run into each other in the 8. Tarantino will run into Ferjanczik, who is a superior fencer and beat him in the finals of Orebro earlier in the year, wherever that is (i'm just looking at the sabre standings right now). | The bracket is not necessarily going to be this one exactly. They randomize the places for the top 16 so that they don't fence each other all the time, i.e. 1 and 2 place may swap places, 3 and 4 as well, and so forth.
So it could be Pillet - Smart, but it could also be Montano - Pillet and Smart - Covaliu. Granted, Montano's probably beat Pillet this season as well, but who knows? At this point they probably do some specific preparation for the fencers that they are expected to fence, so that will have a big factor. Pains me to say this, but I think the Italians have a big shot, they have a great coach.
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08-07-2003, 02:31 PM
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In women's sabre Hungary should win gold in both the individual and team events
| I dont think Csaba will make finals much less win the whole thing. They will probally medal in the team but I don't see them getting gold. | 
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08-07-2003, 05:24 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by a517dogg
Smart can wreck both Tarantino and Pillet. he destroyed Pillet in the team final in NYC, and if the current point standings hold, they run into each other in the 8. Tarantino will run into Ferjanczik, who is a superior fencer and beat him in the finals of Orebro earlier in the year, wherever that is (i'm just looking at the sabre standings right now). | The page header must not be lining up correctly with the rankings in your browser -- Orebro is a satellite competition in Sweden, and neither attended that competition. | |
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08-07-2003, 10:15 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by a517dogg
Nemczick will not win the individual event. It will be either Podzniakov, Covaliu, Smart (maybe), Montano or maybe Ferjaniczik, another Hungarian. Nemczik will be lucky to make the 4. | But lets not forget Nemcsik is recoverying from inhury and its still questionable whether he will or own't be selected in the national side | |
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08-07-2003, 10:17 PM
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| Vecco i am interested to hear whether or not you think that the Touya brother Damien or Gael could possibley do something at World in individuals | |
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08-07-2003, 10:47 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by mejc
Vecco i am interested to hear whether or not you think that the Touya brother Damien or Gael could possibley do something at World in individuals | It's possible, but unlikely. I would consider them as outsiders, even more than Pillet. They haven't had results as good as they did, but I am definitely hoping that the French team will pull their stuff together at worlds, because it seems like right now they are not qualifying for the Olympics, if things continue to be like this...
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