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    Carol
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    Scheduling of USFA Summer Nationals

    The most complaints I heard about Summer Nationals involved scheduling
    of events.

    Scheduling is a hard thing to do. In our Division, even with
    pre-registration, we once had the men's sabre event have 16 entries at
    the door -- meaning that I had to have 4 extra referees...and if people
    didn't know, in a qualifying event, you cannot disallow an entrant for
    being late under the USFA bylaws.

    I think the USFA office does a good job considering the manpower they
    have available.

    In our division, (a very large division of 900+ members, who most of
    which are juniors) we used to have the events (running all 6 weapons in
    1 day for a qualifier) go off on every hour. When I joined the
    tournament committtee, we finally decided to change this -- giving a 1
    hour break between weapons -- i.e. starting WE at 8AM, ME at 9AM, WF at
    11AM, MF at 12PM, WS at 2PM amd MS at 3PM. By having this break in
    time, it really helped facilitate the competition. It is normal to
    except a 1-1/2 hour time for pools; and with the new time structure, it
    helped alleviate congestion in the venue, as well as allow referees some
    time to get lunch. It made the progress of the competition much
    smoother, as well as give the referees some breathing room. In
    addition, it didn't cause a clog of the venue with too many people, and
    all the events all started within 1/2 hour of the posted starting time.

    I think that the USFA with all the events included in Summer Nationals
    just has to sit down and come up with more realistic schedules and
    timings -- albiet, hard to do within 10 days, but if you look at it by a
    strip and referee availability problem, start your Div II or III events
    on the morning; hold youth events and Vet events in the mid-morning;
    hold Div II/III and under-19 and under-16 events in the afternnoon. I
    don't even know that this is even logisitcally doable considering the
    number of events and over 10 days -- I think that perhaps they should
    consider the timeline.





  2. #2
    Chris Hagen
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    Re: Scheduling of USFA Summer Nationals

    In article <3F08CA28.CDCA9F9E@verizon.net>, Carol <ca.donohue@verizon.net>
    writes:

    >I think that the USFA with all the events included in Summer Nationals
    >just has to sit down and come up with more realistic schedules and
    >timings -- albiet, hard to do within 10 days, but if you look at it by a
    >strip and referee availability problem, start your Div II or III events
    >on the morning; hold youth events and Vet events in the mid-morning;
    >hold Div II/III and under-19 and under-16 events in the afternnoon. I
    >don't even know that this is even logisitcally doable considering the
    >number of events and over 10 days -- I think that perhaps they should
    >consider the timeline.


    Rumor has it that 0one big change for next year is going to be an actual
    qualification percentage for Division 3, instead of the 'warm-body' criteria
    that has been the rule since it's institution; I anticipate that it will
    probably be top %60 percent in qualifier.

    Personally, I think there may be some room to consider the automatic
    qualification of people to age group events, as well, i.e. people at/near the
    bottom of the Junior/Cadet/... points lists will still have to qualify through
    the qualifying event: (perhaps) only people more solidly established on the
    points list should be automatic. (but that's strictly idle thinking...)

  3. #3
    Chris Hagen
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    Re: Scheduling of USFA Summer Nationals

    In article <3F08CA28.CDCA9F9E@verizon.net>, Carol <ca.donohue@verizon.net>
    writes:

    >I think that the USFA with all the events included in Summer Nationals
    >just has to sit down and come up with more realistic schedules and
    >timings -- albiet, hard to do within 10 days, but if you look at it by a
    >strip and referee availability problem, start your Div II or III events
    >on the morning; hold youth events and Vet events in the mid-morning;
    >hold Div II/III and under-19 and under-16 events in the afternnoon. I
    >don't even know that this is even logisitcally doable considering the
    >number of events and over 10 days -- I think that perhaps they should
    >consider the timeline.


    Rumor has it that 0one big change for next year is going to be an actual
    qualification percentage for Division 3, instead of the 'warm-body' criteria
    that has been the rule since it's institution; I anticipate that it will
    probably be top %60 percent in qualifier.

    Personally, I think there may be some room to consider the automatic
    qualification of people to age group events, as well, i.e. people at/near the
    bottom of the Junior/Cadet/... points lists will still have to qualify through
    the qualifying event: (perhaps) only people more solidly established on the
    points list should be automatic. (but that's strictly idle thinking...)

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