06-10-2003, 07:37 PM
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| Q = Does fencing hurt?
A= from the answers above and also from my experience it would depend on a few things. Where do you fence is one. If Singapore Sling has marks on his BACK! [I can't stand it really], then he must be fencing with the Marquis d'Salle. I think he should move into a Traditional Salle with Classical fencers, retrain and win a North America Cup. [I'm ready to withstand the rebuttal].
The only aches I've experienced are the normal ones you get while your muscles are reconditioning, and that's even against much stronger fencers like the ones mentioned above. Even a novice and parry away a strong attack, until you have the ability to land a touch. That is the French style of fencing. The Italian sytle of fencing is too strong for the beginner, and should only be employed on the strip on an 'as needed basis". [this is my interpretations based on Nick Evagalist's explanation of the two schools of fencing]. |
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06-11-2003, 03:06 AM
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| Uh oh...theres the E-word again! |
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06-11-2003, 07:53 AM
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| It's those new books! Egad!!
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06-11-2003, 01:02 PM
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| ... the welts on my shoulder tell me, sometimes it can be alittle painful, i am a newb and i tell people not to take it easy on me so i have gone home with a very bruised arm, some shoulder welts, but the even the worst hits dont hurt as much as getting hit with a paintball.
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06-11-2003, 01:07 PM
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| There you have it...the new USFA fencing publicity slogan.
Picture a montage of fencers getting whacked, poked, slamming into each other at full fleche, overlaid with autopsy-level still pix of multi-colored bruises. Head banging X-games music throbs underneath. As the spot comes to a flurry and conclusion, the voice talent who does the "beef-it;s what for dinner" voiceovers says:
"Fencing: it hurts less than paintball."
Worth 20,000 new fencers?
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06-11-2003, 01:58 PM
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| Hmmmm . . . I'd go for it.
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06-11-2003, 04:16 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Capt. Slo-mo
Worth 20,000 new fencers? | worth 50,000 new fencer... but half of them will have mothers who won't let them join fencing after that..... |
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06-11-2003, 04:42 PM
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#28 | | Member
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| fencing hurts sometimes if you fence with only sweatpants,shirt, and body gaurd. I got hit in the knee and the shoulder but it's only like getting an evil poke. The first few lessons your legs will get extremely tired since your always bending them but after a while you get used to it. |
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06-12-2003, 09:39 AM
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| so
did it hurt
and what shoes did you wear? |
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06-12-2003, 12:57 PM
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#30 | | Senior Member
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| Quote: Originally posted by sabresamurai hehe yeah i am starting in sabre but i will probably be the newb that needs preping lol | The sabre summer camp is intro, nick, so everyone will be new. For the most part, getting hit doesn't hurt (depending on where youre hit and the skill of your opponent) but I tried out sabre once for a day, and it can kinda sting a little sometimes.
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06-12-2003, 03:07 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by Capt. Slo-mo There you have it...the new USFA fencing publicity slogan.
"Fencing: it hurts less than paintball."
Worth 20,000 new fencers? | I've played paintball a couple times: the first time I played fearlessly like Rambo... I was polka dotted with bruises for a week. Everytime I got hit I was suprised at how much it stung. By the end of the day I was MUCH more careful about taking cover, and reduced my risks as much as possible. The next time I only had one or two - barely got hit.
If fencing hurt MORE, I would probably be better, for the same reason.
When I first picked up an Epee after only just learning basic Foil, I had some doozie bruises on my arm and chest. I started to make some padding / armor for my arm, but gave up because it was uncomfortable. I decided instead to focus more effort on NOT GETTING HIT.
My coach showed me an epee he's had since the 50's - non electric. Used the three prongs and red dye. Man that thing was like a piece of rebar. He said it hurt a whole lot more in those days -back when "men were men" |
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06-12-2003, 03:48 PM
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| Fencing can leave you with some nasty bruises, but that's about it. Unless you are unlucky of course. I got hit directly in the elbow during a competition once, and I couldn't lift my arm for at least the next 2 bouts. My arm flopped about in useless attempts to parry, and the only attack I could do was point in line. Apparently a nerve was damaged. It gave me trouble for a month. So don't get hit in the elbow 
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10-27-2005, 01:11 AM
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| It can hurt. I remember in 1 of my first sessions, a friend (who had just bought a foil off a guy who had stopped) stabbed me so hard during an exercise RIGHT ON MY COLLARBONE I could barely use my arm for a week. That foil at the time was unbelievably stiff. I have never seen a foil as stiff. It was a crowbar.. Nowadays it's slightly more flexible, but still hurts. Oh, and he always drew his arm back to hit (like he was punching someone) and he still does.
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10-27-2005, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by sabresamurai Hey all you fencers. I am going to start my first lesson in a few days I have wondered, Does fencing hurt? So I posted this asking you "Does fencing hurt?" | No, But you must be carefull and you must take the correct equipment, strong mask and jacket (800N is good) and you must listen your coach.
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10-27-2005, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by sabresamurai "Does fencing hurt?" | Yes. It's very painful -- stay away from fencing! 
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10-27-2005, 07:52 AM
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#36 | | Immortal
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| Reality check YES, DAMN IT, IT DOES HURT SOMETIMES.
Even if you are good and fencing good people.
Unless you are some over-opiated hop head.
Generally, it doesn't hurt as badly as getting hit in paintball.
You get used to it.
You learn to avoid heavy-handed advocates of the Hammer from Hell attack, or how to stop cut and get out of their way (parrying rarely works, since they can find a way to whip over any parry--it may not get them a touch, but by god they whack you).
I don't know what epeeists do, since getting jabbed in the ribs or the thigh or the elbow with a piece of railroad track hurts worst than any sabre cut, as people have noted.
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10-27-2005, 09:43 AM
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| Yes it does hurt *points to bruise on arm labeled "Exhibit A", but then if you keep getting hurt in the same place repeatedly, you learn to defend against that spot. (Unless you're me and then you just keep running into the blade like a complete buffoon) |
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10-27-2005, 10:34 AM
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| It is a sport... it hurts sometimes... The worst is when I fence a beginner and someone hits off-target, and as I'm sitting waiting and watching for the box to reset, the stupid-a$$ beginner takes the opportunity to hit me square in the chest when I'm not looking at him...  |
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10-27-2005, 10:47 AM
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| It appears that sabresamurai took his first lesson nearly two years ago. I suspect that they no longer need to know if it hurts. |
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10-27-2005, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kalivor It appears that sabresamurai took his first lesson nearly two years ago. I suspect that they no longer need to know if it hurts. | Ah,......
Ludicrous is guilty of thread resurrection.
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