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Array George W Bush's Top 10 Utterances source from Dubyaspeak.com
TOP 10 AS SELECTED BY DUBYASPEAK VIEWERS
10. At this Thursday, ticket counters and airplanes will fly outta Ronald Reagan Airport.
9. Laura and I will thank them from the bottom of my heart.
8. When you have your own money, it means you've got more money to spend.
7. The benefits of helping somebody is beneficial.
6. We're in for a long struggle, and I think Texans understand that. And so do Americans.
5. Sometimes when I sleep at night I think of "Hop on Pop".
4. I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here.
3. And one of the things we've got to make sure that we do is anything.
2. We're making the right decisions to bring the solution to an end.
1. Border relations between Canada and Mexico have never been better.
TOP 10 AS SELECTED BY THE EDITOR (from the remainder of the collection)
10. I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war.
9. I am mindful not only of preserving executive powers for myself, but for predecessors as well.
8. You teach a child to read and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.
7. No, I know all the war rhetoric, but it's all aimed at achieving peace.
6. My mom often used to say, "The trouble with W" -- although she didn't put that to words.
5. In 1994, there were 67 schools in Texas that were rated "exemplorary" according to our own tests.
4. I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe -- I believe what I believe is right.
3. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease.
2. I understand small business growth. I was one.
1. Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream. -
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Array Dubbaya's Resume Since we're on the subject, I'll pass this bit of trivia on:
Resume: George W. Bush
Past work experience:
o Ran for congress and lost.
o Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
o Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company foundered but my father's friend purchased the company, merged it with one of his own, paid me in stock, and helped me launch my next business venture by informing me when to sell the stock: (shortly before that company went belly up).
o Bought into the Texas Rangers baseball team with my oil earnings in a sweetheart deal
that took some land in Arlington via eminent domain (redevelopment agency), used tax-payer money, in part, to build a stadium..
o Biggest move while running the Rangers: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago Cubs.
Governor of Texas (elected with some help from my father).
Accomplishments as governor:
o Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. (Also displaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America.)
o Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money.
o Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.
President of the United States (became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my brother Jeb (Governor of Florida) and the Supreme Court):
Accomplishments as president:
o Attacked two countries and occupied one of them.
o Spent the Federal surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
o Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
o Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
o Over saw the loss of 2.1 million jobs during my first two years in office.
o Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
o First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
o First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. (DUI and drunk and disorderly)
o First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
o After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
o Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips taken by any president in US history.
o Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.
o Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
o Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
o Set the record for fewer press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
oSigned more executive orders than any president in US history.
o Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
o Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves to create price relief.
o Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
o Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
o Withdrew from more international treaties than any president in US history.
o My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.
o Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multi- millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
o First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
o Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
o First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
o Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
o Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.
o First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.
o First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.
o Removed more checks and balances, and enjoyed less congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
oFlaunted the United Nations, as well I should.
oWithdrew the United States from the World Court of Law.
o Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and, by default, no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
o First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).
o All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
o My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
o Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
o First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
o First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
o First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
o Enjoyed enormous outpouring of world sympathy following 911, and in less than a year made the US the most hated country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
o With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
o First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
o First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
o Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
o Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
o Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama bin Laden 'dead or alive' but O.J. and I are still looking.
o Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. I have no leads and no suspects.
o In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
o Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
o In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
o Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
Records and References:
oAt least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
o AWOL from National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
o Refused to take drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
oAll records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my fathers library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
o All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
o All minutes of meetings for any public corporation I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
o Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
o For personal references: George Herbert Walker Bush and James Baker (each can be reached at their offices of the Carlyle Group for war-profiteering.) Also Kenneth Lay. -
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Array Hey Artisan, those are some serious lines you have there! What was your source for that information, and is it credible?
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I love the Bush-isms. There's a couple of books of them.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Bush. In fact, I didn't even vote for the guy. But, some of the "Accomplishments as president" are really not his fault or opinionated. Give me a break, I'm not a lemming. I'll make my own opinion knowing the whole situation, and not pull out only what I want to see.
Case in point: the SEC records are sealed just like his investments are in a blind trust.
He's also not the only president who won an election w/o winning the popular vote.
Sorry, I could go on but I usually don't like talking about politics with people I don't really know. I won't waste anymore of your time and I won't reply to anymore to this nonesense.
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Array Originally posted by CarlKnoch Hey Artisan, those are some serious lines you have there! What was your source for that information, and is it credible?
If you got it from books how about a bibliography so some of us can check it out ourselves? Huh? Sorry I wasn't clear...I'm not the author of this bit, and don't know who is. It was forwarded to me as email by a friend. As such, it should be regarded as "urban myth" I suppose. Take it with a grain of salt. Then again, if it came from the internet, it must be true.
If anything it clearly demonstrates how bias can become embedded in one's perception of supposedly objective facts.
Now, as for the Top TEN Bushism's...posted by I See Dead People:
Fireside Press has published at least two volumes of "accidental wit and wisdom of our 43rd President" as compiled bt Slate and edited by Jacob Weisberg with a foreword by Garry Trudeau. ISBN # 0-7432-2519-8 Each of hundreds of such quotations are cited with its source and often a reference to its context. Good bathroom reading material.
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Array There are several biographies out on Bush, some favorable (written by ex-White House staff), some not. Buy 'em or go to the library - it's all out there. The factual portions of the "resume" are in the public record.
As mifencer says, you can argue about how much of the bad news of the last few years is his fault, and you could argue some of them in general, but some are definitely policies of the Administration (like cutting veteran's benefits). "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -
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Array All right this is going to seem quite agressive and as if I do not see the humor in Bushisms. I do see that some are a bit amussing, but to make fun of a man contantly because he is not a good public speaker, I don't think there is a need. Whatever, that is just my two cents. -
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Array Originally posted by KShan5[PrFC] but to make fun of a man contantly because he is not a good public speaker, I don't think there is a need. Whatever, that is just my two cents. Of course we can't be sure, but every now and then, one imagines how much time, money, frustration, misunderstandings and pain could have been spared, if President Bush was able to express himself adequately. What might have been different in recent history, if President Bush was able to ask and answer questions?
It's not too much to ask, after all -- he's a leader, and the only way for a leader to make his wishes known is by words. It's almost the only test for a politician.
President Bush said that his brother was the Governor of Texas; he claimed that the role of the president is to interpret law; He referred to Pakistanis as "Paki's", which is like calling Japanese "Nips". &etc. &etc. This isn't bad public speaking, it's incompetence.
I guess I'm most frustrated that the conservatives foisted him upon us as the best Republican available. Maybe he is. -
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Array I dunno, I myself wasn't aware that "Paki" was considered a slur. It can be deuced hard to keep up with which group is "offended" by which words these days...and one suspects that Bush, like most leaders, is a bit more out of touch with the vagaries of populat expression and culture than most of us.
Also----the number of "Bushisms" floating around out there seems surprisingly large to me. Considering that he has not done as much public speaking as most other pols, one wonders whether a careful tabulation might not reveal that the Bushisms actually exceed the number of sentences he's ever spoken... -
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Array Originally posted by Inquartata I dunno, I myself wasn't aware that "Paki" was considered a slur. Neither was I, at the time. But, at the time, the President was trying to get Pakistan to support our invasion of Afghanistan. That was delicate diplomacy, high-tension romancing of anti-american Muslim influence groups, lots of sweet-talking. Then President Bush goes on TV and basically calls them all wet-backs.
Turns out, the Indians use "Pakis" as a derisive term for Pakistanis. If anybody would have been briefed about that, it would be the President. The president's prepared statements are all vetted by every department and interest group. And he still screws up.
If the "Paki's" error is not compelling, there are many others to choose from. -
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Array Thats why you've noticed he speaks extemporaneously much less frequently since his first year. I use to enjoy watching him get out of a helicoper or airplane and stop to say a few words - and I'd imagine his handlers - I mean aids- wincing as he begins to speak. -
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Array Oh, yeah "the shrub" is undoubtedly a PR person's nightmare. Then again, so are many executives. An instructor of mine did PR for a company that represented KFC at point. Col. Sanders was still alive at this time and I guess someone offended him. He then proceded to take a taxi around New York accompanied by a NY Time reporter and critique the food at each of the franchises in the area. As you can imagine this was not considered a good thing. After this, the company literally made up a campaign to keep the Col. busy.
Conventional wisdom is that the CEO should be prevented from making public statements at all costs unless they have been heavily coached and have a handler or handlers nearby. Otherwise they will invariably go off message, I shuld admit that I don't have a lot of trust in PR in general, despite the fact that I could be quite good at it. I fear if I did get into it I would find myself with an uncontrollable urge to shower compulsively. Not that I'm trying to imply anything about those who choose to work in that field, I just don't feel that I could do so without going too far.
I am not a fan of "the shrub", but then again I'm not awfully fond of anyone the Democrats have to offer either--which is why I voted for Ralph Nader--but I'm not really in the mood to argue politics so I'll just say I like the quote about raising twins. From the twins I've met I'd have to say it's true. It reminds me of a quote I heard attributed to Franklin Delano Roosevelt: "I've been on Carrigador and I've been on Eleanor. I prefer Carrigador". (Carrigador is apparently an island) I greatly admire Eleanor Roosevelt, but I have to admit, it's a funny quote. One cat leads to another--Ernest Hemingway.
Writing is very easy. All you do is sit in front of a typewriter (or computer)keyboard and wait until little drops of blood appear on your forehead."
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Array "Paki" has been widely used in the UK and elsewhere as a slur against Pakistanis (in fact, anybody from the Indian subcontinent, whether Pakistani or not). While that may be a little obscure for Bush to know, unfortunately it's a word that's going to generate animosity.
wflaschka: well said!
Catlady: OT, but Col. Sanders hated what KFC food tasted like after he sold it, and wasn't shy about saying so. PR disaster, as you said. "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." -
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Array Drugs wearing off http://www.aoshingo.com/dubya/audio/4000hours.shtml
turn your speakers on, these are the recordings of his actual speaches.
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Array Weapons of Mass Production
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Array note: this is not addressed to anyone in particular, just those who criticize bush heavily.
yes, bush can be a fool at times, and those claims against him are probably true, but what would you have done differently? i am not trying to be rude, i just believe that if one is going to criticize the president to such an extent, one ought to provide their solutions. bush may be a horrid speaker, but i don't think he is as stupid as he seems. his presidency has been filled with turmoil. but he has done what he can. whatever he does, there will be criticism for it, on one side or another.
i was recently in a competition involving political debates on the constitution, and at nationals in DC, one of our questions dealt indirectly with the issue of civil rights today, or lack of, for some individuals. to what extent can the government act in a time of crisis? what should be valued more, the individual's rights, or the good of the nation? if an attack that was as well planned as september 11th is revealed, thousands, maybe millions of lives could be saved. it's obvious that bush has made policies in favor of the latter, since he obviously realizes that he needs to take action, seen with patriot 1, and now 2, and executive order 13226, i believe (in that order, i think he had a list of people who were believed to be associated with terrorism. helping those people in any way is a federal crime). dont hold me on that number exactly, but it is close.
either way...it can be agreed that bush hasnt been the most stellar president, but name a president who has faced worse. to find a man who can defend the interests of the nation, uphold a perfect economy, be a foreign policy whiz upon other things, while constantly being faced with a looming, unknown threat to the lives of the american people...there is not such a man. everyone is human. the president is not a demi-god. we must remember that bush is a man trying to do his job, even if he is not doing the best job.
if you dont like what he is doing, it is simple: don't vote for him in 2004. write letters of complaint to him, your congressmen and women, join a protest. please, do not just whine about it. provide solutions. become politically involved!
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Array bush is good.
bush is cool.
bush bush isn umber.
these are my opinions.
ps I changed my opinions out of my own free will, not because there is a man in black standing next to me with a gun pointing at my head.
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Array Originally posted by wflaschka It's not too much to ask, after all -- he's a leader, and the only way for a leader to make his wishes known is by words. It's almost the only test for a politician.
For the record, I am staying out of this political debate.
However, I must disagree that the "only way for a leader to make his wishes known is by words."
Oftentimes, the most effective, most powerful way for a leader to make his wishes known is by personal example. By taking initiative and demonstrating what he expects, a leader will inspire those who wish to follow. After all, he is leading from the front - and doing what he expects others to do.
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Array Originally posted by thyme_daniels yes, bush can be a fool at times, and those claims against him are probably true, but what would you have done differently? ok here's one...If I were president I would really really try to not set back my nations foreign policy by thirty years, as most experts seem to have agreed - regardless of their party affiliation.
The good news might be that most of our allies (and enemies) understand that he is a complete knucklehead and will hopefully forgive us as a nation for putting him in office -and so hopefully will take that into consideration when the 44th president takes office and starts to unravel the messes that have been created.
how's that? Anyone else? -
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Array I would build a wall around the entire nation and tell everyone to stay home. Then I would build a paradise and protect the land with sentries; we wouldn't invade anything. While the rest of the world rolled and shook, we would remain cool, calm and dry, teaching our kids proper education and the arts. I would build beautiful libraries and recreation centers for children and adults.
Space travel would be limited to an inexpensive rocket that would periodically get sent out for little picture taking series that would be shown in Astronomy classes in highschool; medical care would be nearly free; all criminal activities would be punished by exiles, or more harsh realities.
we would celebrate the following occassions no one would go to work on these days:
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