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    settling a discussion with a friend.

    Random questions for the board. responses appreciated:

    1) Do you know who Ty Cobb was?

    2) Do you know who Bill Russell is?
    3) Do you know who Tris Speaker was?

    4) Do you know what city the Athletics originally existed in.

    Thanks, all.

    -m

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    EM,

    As they say, you can find everything on the Net.
    Have you looked?
    No, I have not yet.I'll let you do it.

    I only know the ans to the first one.

    I'm too busy fixing my electric sabre glove.

    PK

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    ah, but indeed the info I'm looking for you CAN'T find on the web. for the issue is approx. what percentage of people know the answers to those questions.

    we, in fact, know the answers to all 4 already.

    -m

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    Hi!

    My answer to all four is:

    Donīt know.

    Suspect that goes for most non-americans. What group did you intend to find out the knowledge about?

    Havea nice time!

    Peter G

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    EM,

    My handicap is that
    1. I'm not American.
    2. I'm a naturalised Canadian.

    Now ask me something Chinese or about China...or Canadian.

    This is another illustration of the inappropriatenss of culture-based IQ test in a multicultural society.

    e.g. If I ask you
    who scored the winning goal in the 1972 Canada/USSR hockey series? Who were the goalies?
    who was Rocket Richard? Who is Guy Lafleur? Jacques Lamaire? what is the postal code for the CBC's HQ in Toronto?
    do you know the lyrics to 'O Canada", or 'God Save the Queen'? not to mention the lyrics of the PRC's national anthem. [I know the lyrics to 'the Star Spangled Banner'.]
    etc.

    PK

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    I have heard of Ty Cobb, but I couldn't tell you any more than that about him. Baseball bores me for the most part, so I've never had any motive to learn stuff about it....

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    I'm so Canadian - PK, I know the answers to your questions and I wasn't born until 1981!

    Mike, as to yours, I have no idea...

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    I'm with the Cultrual Bias thing.....
    Try these....what was the original name of Tasmania, where would I find the big banana and what year did white man first set foot in Australia?
    Theses are evil....VERY evil, someone rescue me pls!

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    no, I don't expect most non-Americans to know any of them, and that is an important demographic.

    admittedly, I am more interested in with what percentage of Americans know this, but that is only because I think I already know that non-Americans won't know it.

    -m

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    Originally posted by pkt
    This is another illustration of the inappropriatenss of culture-based IQ test in a multicultural society.
    This is CERTAINLY not intended to say ANYTHING about the responder's IQ!

    I agree with the point, though.

    -m

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    Two out of four. Didn't know who Tris Speaker was, and didn't know where the A's started out (much to my shame when I looked it up and saw....)

    --Philistine

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    Originally posted by Philistine
    Two out of four. Didn't know who Tris Speaker was, and didn't know where the A's started out (much to my shame when I looked it up and saw....)

    --Philistine
    hehe.....

    Well, I guess somebody from Philly would have good reason to remember Bill Russell.

    -m

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    Well, I think everyone knows Ty Cobb looked a lot like Tommy Lee Jones, only smaller, meaner, more bigoted, and much more likely to throw a cleat your way...truly one of baseball's bad boys. Inventor of the "Corn on the Cobb" snack sold at boardwalks and amusement arcades across the east coast in the early 20th century. Wiped out financially speculating on corn futures, and lived out the remainder of his life as a pauper in Russell, Kansas, where he met and mentored:

    Bill Russell. One of basketball's best oldtimers. Father of famous actor Kurt Russell, and founder, CEO of Russell athletic wear, retired early and played for the Oakland Athletics baseball franchise. Of course back then, the Athletics played in...wait, I'm getting ahead of myself here....

    Tris Speaker---now there's a rare one. Famous old time baseball player, infamous for carrying a gun to his position at center field, which he used to shoot hecklers in the stands. After his second season, due to sudden drop off in lucrative center field ticket sales, Speaker was traded to the the Poughkeepsie Athletics, who...wait, I did it again...

    This is sort of a trick question...the original "Athletics" sports team began in Jamestown, Virginia, imported there by early colonists fleeing the ravages of the free agent system in the Gloucester League of England. First coach, Director of Player Personnel and Team Captain John Smith is credited with barking out the now famous credo: "Prithy! If thou takest not fungo, then eat thou shall not!" This line is still heard verbatim in spring training camps all across the south today.

    From these humble beginnings, the Jamestown Athletics went on to star in the Indian leagues, and moved up the Eastern Seaboard as larger, more lucrative stadiums were built thru the 1700's. The home cities have changed over the centuries, but to this day, the term "Athletics" and "fungo" remain irrevocably intertwined.
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    And here I thought Bill Russell was that singing political humorist nerd on PBS...

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    Well, I have no clue who Tris Speaker was, but the other three I know...unless the Athletics played somewhere else before Kansas City...
    Nothing is more frightening than ignorance in action.

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    Originally posted by lochinvar
    Well, I have no clue who Tris Speaker was, but the other three I know...unless the Athletics played somewhere else before Kansas City...
    yep, and the braves played somewhere else before Milwaukee.

    -m

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    Originally posted by epeemike81
    yep, and the braves played somewhere else before Milwaukee.

    -m
    So did the Brewers, for that matter...and the Rams didn't start in Los Angeles, nor the (football) Cardinals in Pheonix...

    I guess I'll have to look up the A's now; my curiosity is piqued.
    Nothing is more frightening than ignorance in action.

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    oh, well, now you've opened a can of worms.....

    here's a trivia question for you:

    neither the Texas Rangers nor the Minnesota Twins started out as such. Which of those teams started as the Washington Senators?

    -m

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    even more interesting question: there are four players (to my knowledge) who started and ended their career with a different team in the same city. can you name them??

    -m

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    Ty cobb, he sounds like a baseball player
    Russell: sounds like a reporter
    the third one, sounds made up or someone that does something very interesting.

    Okay, for PKT who want me to ask him anything about China: Who was the leader of China before Mao? and what happened to him?

    What is your favorite Chinese Noodle dish: notice I said noodle, not rice.

    and lastely: What is the origins of the phrase: Ni-how-ma?
    [hint: it is connected with rice]

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