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    NCAA Championships guess

    Creating a new thread on who you think will win the events.
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    ME: Raynis, O'Garra, Kelley, Yergler
    MF: Massialas, Willette, Meinhardt, Chamley-Watson
    MS: Homer, Spear, Prochniak, Bak

    WE: Hurley, Nelip, Scanlan, Ferdman
    WF: Kiefer, Kiefer, Zeiss, Wang
    WS: Stone, Stone, Limbach, MacDonald

    ME Overall........MF Overall........MS Overall.......WE Overall......WF Overall......WS Overall
    Princeton. . . . .Stanford. . . . . Penn State. . . .Notre Dame. . . Notre Dame. . . Princeton
    Penn. . . . . . . Notre Dame. . . . St John's. . . . Princeton. . . .Ohio State. . . St. John's
    Penn State. . . . Penn State. . . . Princeton. . . . Ohio State. . . Princeton. . . .Penn State
    Ohio State. . . . Penn. . . . . . . Penn. . . . . . .Northwestern. . Penn State. . . Ohio State

    Overall:
    Princeton
    Notre Dame
    Penn State
    Ohio State
    St John's
    Stanford
    Columbia
    Harvard

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    MF...Meinhardt, Massialas, DeSmet, Shaito.

    MF Team...Notre Dame, Stanford, Penn State, Ohio State.

    Overall: Notre Dame, Princeton, Ohio State

    Dark Horse: Stanford
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    My predictions:

    ME: Raynis, Ro, Kelley, Watson
    MF: Massialas, Caldwell, Meinhardt, Shaito
    MS: Homer, Dershwitz, Prochniak, Arzoian

    WE: Hurley, Holmes, Scanlan, Bassa
    WF: Kiefer, Kiefer, Dubrovich, Wang
    WS: Stone, Stone, Limbach, Thill


    Overall:
    Princeton
    Notre Dame
    Penn State
    Columbia
    Ohio State
    St John's
    Harvard
    Stanford

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    MF: Massialas, Meinhardt, Willette, Chamley-Watson

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    Why did this need two threads Eric?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 View Post
    Why did this need two threads Eric?
    Predictions had too many syllables?

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    Quote Originally Posted by teacup View Post
    Predictions had too many syllables?
    When you pick a team to have two of the top four and STILL only come in third in a weapon, you're clearly guessing not making predictions....

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    We'll see, Brad. We'll see.
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    ME: Yergler, Ro, Watson, Badger
    MF: Meinhardt, Massialas, Shaito, Chamley-Watson
    MS: Homer, Will Spear, Michael Josephs, Kevin Hassett
    WE: Hurley, Nelip, Holmes, Scanlan
    WF: L. Kiefer, Kirpicheya, Dubrovich, M. Zeiss
    WS: Limbach, G. Stone, E. Stone, Osier

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    What happened to Hadzic? Injury? He would be in my top 4 for Men's Epee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon Fencer View Post
    What happened to Hadzic? Injury? He would be in my top 4 for Men's Epee.
    Black card. For "strongly contesting" a red card.

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    My top 12 for men's foil:

    1. Alex Massialas
    2. Gerek Meinhart
    3. Miles Chamley Watson
    4. Michele Caporizzi
    5. David Willete
    6. Michael Dudey
    7. Turner Caldwell
    8. Brian Kaneshige
    9. Zain Shaito
    10. Ariel Desmet
    11. Eli Shenkel
    12. Adam Elkassas

    Incidentally, this is the nastiest men's foil field in...ever.

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    I wonder what the record is for "number of Olympians in a collegiate competition"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien Lehfeldt View Post
    Black card. For "strongly contesting" a red card.
    Ouch. I'm interested in this, could you elaborate by chance if you have enough information? I heard the fencer's school gets a hefty fine if he/she is black carded at an NCAA event. My source, a member of an NCAA fencing team, said it is a $10,000 fine. However, I am not sure where he got this number from, so I could be completely wrong. If this is true, I wonder what other consequences would be taken. Would he be kicked off of his team? It would be a shame because he is a good fencer and the captain of the them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damien Lehfeldt View Post
    Black card. For "strongly contesting" a red card.
    I heard there was no physical contact or profanity. To me a black for any other type of "criticism" in this type of environment is too much. The ref who issued the card, and whom I have never seen give a black before , frequents the forum. Hope we can get his point of view.
    As far as predictions, I will try to be semi-serious, and come up with one a day.
    Personally I fenced at Notre Dame, my Daughter is now at Barnard, and I ref on the West Coast (and would like for it to stay alive).
    So - a lot of allegiances, but for next 4 years I'm rooting for Columbia - thus to avoid any bias I won't put in any of their fencers.
    In general it's an odd event - you have to be exceedingly dominant in 23 5touch/3 minute bouts to make Top 4, then you've to win only 2 15touch bouts, which will be single staged, to become a Champ. So regular season record should be a good indicator of the place near the top, while overall latest results should help in picking the Final 4.
    To me the hardest Women's Weapon to pick is Epee. For variety of reasons some strong fencers are missing but majourity of favourites are here.
    Top 7 would be :
    Guzzi-Vincenti PSU (37-5)
    Holmes Princeton (17-1)
    Nelip ND (48-6)
    Hurley ND (39-5)
    Kong Stanford (37-6)
    Bassa Stanford (36-7)
    Dabrowa OSU (46-11)

    all 7 have strong, experienced Epee Coaches who will bring the Athletes to the peak form for the Nationals; and support staff/facilities to take care of any "interim issues".

    next in line :
    Fath (SJU)
    Ferdman (SJU)
    Piasecka (OSU)
    Vaggo (Harvard)
    Van Loon (Harvard)
    D'Agostino (Duke)
    Scanlan (Princeton)
    Bhinder (Penn)
    I was extremely impressed with Kong last weekend, seeing her fence for the 2nd time, even knowing that she made Top 16 in Senior World Cups twice last year.

    So... after much pondering :
    1. Hurley (ND)
    2. Holmes (Princeton)
    3. Dabrowa (OSU)
    3. Kong (Stanford)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allex View Post
    Top 6 would be :
    Guzzi-Vincenti PSU (37-5)
    Holmes Princeton (17-1)
    Nelip ND (48-6)
    Hurley ND (39-5)
    Kong Stanford (37-6)
    Bassa Stanford (36-7)
    Dabrowa OSU (46-11)

    all 6 have strong, experienced Epee Coaches who will bring the Athletes to the peak form for the Nationals; and support staff/facilities to take care of any "interim issues".
    Care to revise your top "6"?
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    MF: Massialas (CHAMP), Chamley Watson, DeSmet, Meinhardt
    ME: Yergler (CHAMP), Raynis, Watson, Ro
    MS: Homer (CHAMP), Ryjik, Spear, Dershwitz

    WF: L. Kiefer (CHAMP), Kirpicheva, Dubrovich, A. Kiefer
    WE: Hurley (CHAMP), Holmes, Scanlan, Guzzi
    WS: E. Stone (CHAMP), G. stone, McDonald, Limbach

    Team: Notre Dame, followed closely by Princeton and St. John's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allex View Post
    I heard there was no physical contact or profanity. To me a black for any other type of "criticism" in this type of environment is too much. The ref who issued the card, and whom I have never seen give a black before , frequents the forum. Hope we can get his point of view.
    My understanding is that there was in fact profanity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KShan5[PrFC] View Post
    My understanding is that there was in fact profanity.
    So this is a let's guess/predict NCAA championships. Gossip might be better placed in the water cooler forum?

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