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Old 12-27-2002, 08:27 AM   #1
Phillip Inoy
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Orthotics

I thought I'd share this with you since I have been struggling so
terribly with shoes and pain in my left shin, particularly the right
side of it.

There is a great do it your self orthotic out on the market called

Sole Orthotics.

They're 30 bucks and you bake them in the oven according to
instructions and then stand on them toes directly forward after
quickly inserting in your shoe.

Even without the baking process they are wonderful.

Try em, they are awesome. I bet they would be great in fencing shoes.
They really add spring to your step.

Oh and btw, martial arts shoes, which are essentially identical to the
Starfighters and Chinese fencing shoes I've seen are a great $30.00 or
less alternative to fencing shoes. You could buy the 60-80 dollar
Adidas Tae Kwon Do model, but I don't recommend it. By Pine Tree or
some other no name brand from your local Karate store.

Add gels for the lunging heel and for the ball of each foot and you've
the makings of an awesome shoe.

Musings,

Phillip J. Inoy
 
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Old 12-27-2002, 11:19 AM   #2
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Re: Orthotics

Are you referring to the people at
www.itsyoursole.com

When you formed them, did you assume an on-guard stance, or stand straight
and level as per their instructions? Just wondering because the lateral
position of a fencer's rear foot seems to be a source of many knee, foot and
ankle problems. I would guess that the orthodic would be best utilized if
formed in the position in which it will be used - particularly @ the big toe
and ball of the rear foot of the rear foot.

-TS



"Phillip Inoy" <debergerac@ziplip.com> wrote in message
news:97b3a9dd.0212270527.660b6c07@posting.google.c om...
> I thought I'd share this with you since I have been struggling so
> terribly with shoes and pain in my left shin, particularly the right
> side of it.
>
> There is a great do it your self orthotic out on the market called
>
> Sole Orthotics.
>
> They're 30 bucks and you bake them in the oven according to
> instructions and then stand on them toes directly forward after
> quickly inserting in your shoe.:

/www.itsyoursole.com
>
> Even without the baking process they are wonderful.
>
> Try em, they are awesome. I bet they would be great in fencing shoes.
> They really add spring to your step.
>
> Oh and btw, martial arts shoes, which are essentially identical to the
> Starfighters and Chinese fencing shoes I've seen are a great $30.00 or
> less alternative to fencing shoes. You could buy the 60-80 dollar
> Adidas Tae Kwon Do model, but I don't recommend it. By Pine Tree or
> some other no name brand from your local Karate store.
>
> Add gels for the lunging heel and for the ball of each foot and you've
> the makings of an awesome shoe.
>
> Musings,
>
> Phillip J. Inoy



 
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Old 12-28-2002, 01:38 AM   #3
Phillip Inoy
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Re: Orthotics

Yes, its them. I love those guys.

I did a little experimentation. I bought 2 pair. One I did per
instructions and one I did in a full lunge.

The lunge pair: the left(rear) foot felt less than comfortable unless
I was in a lunge position. The rest of the time it felt like there was
less stability.

The standard per instructions pair: They felt great all around except
when I lunged. keeping my left foot flat proved difficult due to the
support. It jars the knee a little, which always makes me nervous.
However, the farther away from my opponent I turn my left foot, the
less strangeness in the knee I feel. It also makes it easier to
retreat as the leg is moving in a manner conducive to normal, non
fencing modalities.

If per the standard lunge(feet approx 90 degrees) I'd advise doing the
standard way the advocate heating the insole then learning to relax
the leg after it has made its ballistic extension. That way if your
foot does pronate at the ankle a little it wont jar or rip any
tendons. Fencers don't spend enough time lunging during bouts or
practice to justify asymetrical shoes. IMHO, Some do though so its up
to you. Fencers dont seem to spend enoughtime warming up their ankles
or stretching. Again, IMHO.

Yet, from an internal perspective also, its quite unhealthy to be so
asymetrical. I spend a great deal of time working on the left side of
my body after fencing just to be more balanced.

I spend a lot of time doing massage therapy and doing internal martial
arts so wholistic wellness is key.

For the best support though, don't heat them at all. They're firmest
before they're heated. I'm going out to buy another pair.

I love them.

Phillip J. Inoy
PS; Happy Holidays!




"TS" <tsdf@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<iDCdnYGn5-304ZGjXTWcpw@comcast.com>...
> Are you referring to the people at
> www.itsyoursole.com
>
> When you formed them, did you assume an on-guard stance, or stand straight
> and level as per their instructions? Just wondering because the lateral
> position of a fencer's rear foot seems to be a source of many knee, foot and
> ankle problems. I would guess that the orthodic would be best utilized if
> formed in the position in which it will be used - particularly @ the big toe
> and ball of the rear foot of the rear foot.
>
> -TS
>
>
>
> "Phillip Inoy" <debergerac@ziplip.com> wrote in message
> news:97b3a9dd.0212270527.660b6c07@posting.google.c om...
> > I thought I'd share this with you since I have been struggling so
> > terribly with shoes and pain in my left shin, particularly the right
> > side of it.
> >
> > There is a great do it your self orthotic out on the market called
> >
> > Sole Orthotics.
> >
> > They're 30 bucks and you bake them in the oven according to
> > instructions and then stand on them toes directly forward after
> > quickly inserting in your shoe.:

> /www.itsyoursole.com
> >
> > Even without the baking process they are wonderful.
> >
> > Try em, they are awesome. I bet they would be great in fencing shoes.
> > They really add spring to your step.
> >
> > Oh and btw, martial arts shoes, which are essentially identical to the
> > Starfighters and Chinese fencing shoes I've seen are a great $30.00 or
> > less alternative to fencing shoes. You could buy the 60-80 dollar
> > Adidas Tae Kwon Do model, but I don't recommend it. By Pine Tree or
> > some other no name brand from your local Karate store.
> >
> > Add gels for the lunging heel and for the ball of each foot and you've
> > the makings of an awesome shoe.
> >
> > Musings,
> >
> > Phillip J. Inoy

 
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