flick defense

[Mischa]

Tough **** for not parrying.

[scarfe]

If someone steps in / out on my flick attack, I make a point of tightening my grip and landing the blade painfully flat on their arm.

it is true one maybe at fault for not parrying but one point this seems to be done out of pure vengfulness for histtack is only meant to hurt, no score a point. THUS if it the attack is not intended to score why should someone parry? and why would anyone have such an attitude, I have fenced people tat have been and dissappointed over loss but to the extent of this pathetic retribution.

scarfe

[Mischa]

In other words, I mean that if my opponent steps into or out of my flick attack, I don't bother to stop my attack, I continue it as if the distance were still perfect. So it hurts them, which is their own fault for not parrying.

Yes it's aggressive but aggression is key to my game.

(my coach agrees with me too).

[MikeHarm]

So far I've continued to have increased success with using parrys that spank the opponents blade or just beating their blade when people are launching flick attacks which take the forward energy out of the blade causing them to land flat giving me a nice one light riposte.

One thing I've been playing with thats been working against some of my opponents is using the motion you would with a sabre cut going directly forward and making the cutting motion hitting my opponents blade blade in their center with the forte of my blade against folks trying to do the flicks to my side with their arm horizontal.

I've had more success in using distance lately with my retreats so they miss but trying to advance into the flick attack I've had the problem of my opponent redirecting the motion from my shoulder or side and popping me in the back.

I'm still looking for more stuff to do, but this was good enuf to get me qualified for Div II foil last weekend at least.

[135711]

Hello fellow fencers....I went and took a look at the Big Book of Fencing, still a reference text, for a parry vs flick to shoulder, and looked at 3, I'm not satisfied with it, and 5 isn't the answer either, there should be one really standard great parry to use....I think it's one of those things we'll just have to live with and btw; flicks are all over the place, not just one target.

I'm just so impressed with the USFA's new magazine, it's completely different. I notice also, they invited clergy to their event, so, I'm impressed again. It seems that the 'air of repectability' is alive and well.

[wolvhund]

Mischa wrote:
In other words, I mean that if my opponent steps into or out of my flick attack, I don't bother to stop my attack, I continue it as if the distance were still perfect. So it hurts them, which is their own fault for not parrying.

Yes it's aggressive but aggression is key to my game.

(my coach agrees with me too).


This isn't what you originally stated, what you said was that you deliberately tightened your grip and hit hard to make it painful, an entirely different thing. Not changing your game to make it convenient for your opponent is a good thing, but deliberately hurting someone to discourage an action is just plain bad sportsmanship, rationalize it any way you wish. You could have just as well as said "I'll bring my knee up into their crotch to discourage infighting"

[j4gg3d3dg399]

three is a little low against the attack to the shoulder don't you think, it's a nice idea though, I've tried it several times. the flick is still new to foil, no-one yet has tried parry 5. even though the flick's not to the head, it needs parry 5, because it completely blocks the area around the shoulder. if you draw a circle around the target, and look at the diameter(s), then you'll knowwhere to put the blade. But, since it's not part of the foil repetroire, no one uses it! it stays in the realm of saber.

Actually, it is a raised guard where the bell is supposed to catch the tip or if they over commit a little bit should catch it on the begining part of the foilible still unable to hit, or if they seriously over commit this raised guard even if the blade flips around it should screen some of it out, as for parry 5 (sabre that is ) it is a little big for something as small as a shoulder flick and if they are feinting to that line and you throw up that big 5 you are toast thats all i can say