03-23-2003, 03:48 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mexico
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| Looking for students of Santelli & Csaba Elthes got an email from a friend who is looking for ex-students of Giorgio Santelli and Csaba Elthes. check out this webpage: http://www.geocities.com/giorgio_santelli_csaba_elthes
looking for stories, photos, general information on your time spent with these two masters. |
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03-23-2003, 04:51 PM
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| Give fencers club a call, im sure there is someone there who can tell you about csaba. If your feeling really lucky call on a wendsday evening, sometimes peter stops by then. |
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03-24-2003, 10:54 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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| If it counts, my fencing instructor fenced WITH santelli.
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03-24-2003, 11:12 PM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mexico
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| Santelli Yes, it matters! please email: fencing_masters@yahoo.com with any contact information, name, email, phone,e tc. with your teacher's name. Great to have any and all info. THANKS  |
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03-25-2003, 02:18 AM
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| http://www.salledenord.org/
You'll have to forgive the cheesy russian music, but it's our intructors quirky russian side peeking out.
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03-26-2003, 06:21 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mexico
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| Santelli/Csaba Hey Style - THANKS, your maestro Mel North responded, how great to find a peer of these gentlemen (albiet younger). He emailed and will be sending in some information in about a week. He was personal friends with both and their wives, so we will get some better insight in to the personal side of these maestros. A VERY nice email indeed from Maitre North .
Anyone else out there with more info? |
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11-12-2003, 09:13 PM
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| Czaba Elthes Hi
I am an ex- fencer from Mexico City. In the early 70´s I trained under maestro Bela Balogh in Mexico City and I was sent to New York for three months for a special training program at NYU and the Fencers Club in New York City. Czaba Elthes was responsable for this program and Bela Balogh´s close friend,both hungarians. Although I was quite young, I remember Czaba well and how much I enjoyed his classes. |
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11-12-2003, 09:22 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Amherst, MA and Franklin, MA
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| Umm Peter Westbrook, as in the PeterWestbrook Foundation of New Yrok fenced with Csaba.
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11-12-2003, 11:04 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Mississippi
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| esgrimista1 -- I looked at the page, and it's wonderful. It's absolutely brilliant. What an amazingly great way to remember these coaches.
I fenced at the NYFC in the years before Csaba passed away. I was terrified of him, but his reputation and the esteem in which other fencers held him always made me wonder about him. About Csaba, there were no solid facts, just hype and rumor. So, to find this information, collected and made public -- it's truly wonderful.
Peter Westbrook indeed lessoned with Csaba. But the guy you should be asking is Steve Mormando, who also lessoned, and moreover gives lessons along Csaba lines. I've seen Mormando take a walk-in, and make a winning varsity starter in less than 2 years. Steve, once he gets going, cannot stop praising Csaba. (Our sabre instructor, here in the middle of Mississippi, gives Csaba lessons twice removed.) There is no overstating the maestro's impact on the sport.
Mormando can be reached through NYU's athletics page. Invite him to view what you've compiled. He'll doubtless contribute. Watching him with Csaba, I learned how to respect coaches. |
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11-13-2003, 10:49 AM
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| Great website. I'll point my old coach in your direction. He trained with Czaba and fenced with Mormando at NYU.
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11-15-2003, 11:42 PM
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| I agree. the site is fantastic, and those old photos GRE\AT. Try George Kolombatovich from Columbia Univ. Santelli was his old coach. |
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11-17-2003, 02:35 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central Illinois
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| I've been lurking here a while but had to register and respond when I saw my college coach, now deceased, referenced on the Santelli site: Quote:
Schmitter, Charles: trained with Santelli in the early 1940's. Schmitter was Michigan State University coach from 1940 - 1983 when he retired. (More about Schmitter at: http://home.att.net/~glswords/page3.html
After being hired by MSU "I realized that I needed to improve my own technique if I was going to continue teaching." Shortly after that Schmitter began studying with Maestro Giorgio Santelli. "He helped me with my form and taught me a teachable style of fencing," Schmitter said. "He did it as a "professional courtesy, can you imagine that? We became very close friends. He was a good man."
| Coach Schmitter did indeed learn a "teachable style" from Santelli, and he used it to develop me and many others into fair college fencers in a short time, even into his 70's. I'm starting to teach now in a small club, and I hope I can continue the legacy even half as well as he did.
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11-17-2003, 06:16 PM
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| Ron Miller at UNC-Chapel Hill also studied under Csaba. |
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04-25-2004, 01:38 AM
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#15 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mexico
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| the site has been updated as of yesterday w/more contributions. Steve Mormondo mailed a videotape to the webmaster of csaba giving lessons! Phil Reilly says that Jack Keane has tapes also. Please pass the word, there must be more info. out there? THANKS |
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