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    Yeah, olde English rules???

    Before you know it we'll be lapsing into Latin...

    135711 - good grief, I even remember that number whatever its meaning is - not trying to be malicious or anything else, I support our stance on giving people room on typos, etc.

    That said, I believe, in 1100, there was only England, etc., but not Great Britain.

    There is a Chinese proverb that says, "A small country boasts that it is 'Great'. My pointing this out is not aimed just at GB which is great no more - I prefer the more correct name UK, South Korea call themselves the "Great Han Republic".

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    I have no idea, there's no rhyme or reason for 135711; other than one day, while i was signing in, me mind floated like into another plane, i thought, "what should i call myself....call myself! that's it! i'll call myself! 1=prime 3=a parry=5=a saber parry =711 the store where i buy my bubble gum. Then it evolved; when the webmeister but a cell phone up, and it became a telephone number; and when we talk about poules; it becomes 1-3; 5-7; and 11 fencers all in a row ~)>>-----

    I support my stance: Okay, england, not great britian.....

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    Originally posted by 135711
    SNIP!!!

    To be honest, the range of grammar, style, syntax differences are a bit interesting, in that they are similar to the events that transpired in 1100 in Great Britian under Cromwell. The Angles and Saxons fought numerous battles over Great Brittian and the language went into dissaray, causing all to become confused and upset.

    SNIP!!!!

    "1100 in Great Britain under Cromwell"?

    I'm confused: which Cromwell is that? Angles? Saxons? Fighting in post-Norman England?

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    Didn't know that the Protector was a time-traveller, did ya?

    BTW, I have an epee with an Italian grip. The finger does not have to be wrapped around the ricasso in order to give ones grip more strength than is afforded by the French. You can hold the ricasso between thumb and finger just as with the French...and e the crossbar lays between your index and ring fingers. The pressure of this against your hand improves the strength, just as the projections of certain pistol grips between your fingers do, though less efficiently.

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    I have used the Italian grip extensively as well as pistol grips. I prefer the Italian, but then again my coach was coached by one of the greatest fencers of all time, who used the Italian grip foil, Aldo Nadi. The Italian grip when used with the wrist strap allows for great power in parries and control of the blade (excellent tip control). When used properly, with correct and precise body form, it also gives an advantage with infighting. The Italian grip embodies Italian sports--strong defense with powerful attacks that can overwhelm. Without the wrist strap, it loses its strength and its advantages. With the wrist strap at the joint of the wrist it can act as an extension of your arm and parries do not get any stronger nor ripostes more powerful and flexibilty is not hindered. It may feel weird at first, but it works. Also, the thumb and forefinger grip the blade and the middle finger does not wrap nor grip the ricasso, but rests at the edge and pushes against it. The middle finger just adds stability and a bit of strength

    I personally believe that pistol grips have taken over because they offer more power than the french grip and more flexibility than the italian and due to their ability to allow different approaches to style and technique which the Italian grip does not. Also, there is no flick with the Italian grip.

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