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    Keystone Games?

    I'm considering competing in the Keystone Games this year.
    Has anyone fenced this event? Is it a good time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyb215 View Post
    I'm considering competing in the Keystone Games this year.
    Has anyone fenced this event? Is it a good time?
    Ask people at the club who've fenced it. I've done it from time to time, though not lately. Sometimes it's worth the hike; certainly always a pleasant get-together.
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    I've gone off-again, on-again since 2005, and I've found it to be a really fun experience on several levels.

    Although it's usually pretty small in numbers it can be a surprisingly strong event depending on who shows up. Second, it's great fun to be fencing in a space located between the powerlifters and the volleyball players, or between the judo and the table tennis. It's basically a minature version of the Olympic games. I love wandering around watching the other sports, and they in turn also like to wander by and watch us. There's a neat atmosphere of grassroots enthusiasm throughout the games. Also the fencing organizers are hardworking and friendly, and there are usually at least a couple of highly-rated refs available.

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    It's a fun event. Like Peach and Fencerchica said, it's a small event, but we're friendly (I don't think anyone's had to be treated for fencer bites lately). I've fenced 2 out of the last 3 years and helped out the year of my surgery. The more the merrier (and the higher the event rating)!
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    Where's it held? AskFred doesn't show any information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkormann View Post
    Where's it held? AskFred doesn't show any information.
    http://bit.ly/H4Ba7k
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    Quote Originally Posted by academe View Post
    Yeah - yeah...

    So it looks like it's for full-time students only.
    Last edited by jkormann; 04-02-2012 at 02:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkormann View Post
    Yeah - yeah...

    So it looks like it's for full-time students only.
    No... academe's link indicates otherwise...

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    From Summer Games, Fencing page (link):

    ELIGIBILITY:
    •An athlete must meet the following criteria:
    - A full-time Resident of PA, NJ, MD, DE, NY, WV, OH, DC
    - A full-time Student at a recognized academic institution in any of the above states
    - All athletes eligible to compete in a USFA Event may compete at 2012 Games
    - All participants must show proof of current USFA (2011-2012) membership status
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkormann View Post
    From Summer Games, Fencing page (link):

    ELIGIBILITY:
    •An athlete must meet the following criteria:
    - A full-time Resident of PA, NJ, MD, DE, NY, WV, OH, DC
    - A full-time Student at a recognized academic institution in any of the above states
    - All athletes eligible to compete in a USFA Event may compete at 2012 Games
    - All participants must show proof of current USFA (2011-2012) membership status
    Looks like a typo: the intent must have been to put an "OR" between the first 2 bullets, then an "AND" between that and the 3rd and 4th. I was not a full time student any of the years I entered.

    Edited to add -- if you really feel concerned, I'm sure an email to Curtis Huey will clear things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fencerchica View Post
    Looks like a typo: the intent must have been to put an "OR" between the first 2 bullets, then an "AND" between that and the 3rd and 4th. I was not a full time student any of the years I entered.

    Edited to add -- if you really feel concerned, I'm sure an email to Curtis Huey will clear things up.
    Since veteran categories are always part of it, I don't think you'd get a lot of entries in the veteran events if we were required to be full-time students to enter.

    http://www.keystonegames.com/fencing.html and http://askfred.net/Events/moreInfo.p...ament_id=15066
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    Yeah. I think I'll do this.
    Thanks f.net pals.
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    Damn shame that they couldn't hold it 6 days earlier... now if I want to fence in it I'll have to purchase a new membership earlier than I was planning on doing instead of being able to use my current membership for one last fling.
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    They haven't phased out 1 day memberships yet have they?
    I now dangle to the left....my tassle. Get your minds out of the gutter.
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    If you intend to have an annual membership later, one day memberships are a fairly bad deal. On the other hand, they are an option.

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    It's a decent tournament. As mentioned, the multi-sport atmosphere is kind of cool.
    Just make sure you're on time; they won't hold registration open even if you call.
    And don't expect them to have an armorer present.
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    Reply from Curtis Huey:

    The actual criteria are competitors must be a full time resident OR a
    student attending an academic institution in one of the above states. The
    games aren't restricted to students.
    Right-of-way doesn't matter if there is a single light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morale Officer View Post
    The more the merrier (and the higher the event rating)!
    Why and how is an event that's only open to residents of certain states (which comprise neither a division nor a section) a USFA rated event in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fencerX View Post
    Why and how is an event that's only open to residents of certain states (which comprise neither a division nor a section) a USFA rated event in the first place?
    Fair question, why would this be a problem?

    The rules don't state any of those as reasons not to allow the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdman1011395 View Post
    The rules don't state any of those as reasons not to allow the event.
    Obviously such restricted events are "allowed". They can even be sanctioned, if conditions are met. The question was how are these USFA rated events?

    The rules state "Restricted competitions may not be rated unless the restriction is based solely upon fencers' classifications or age or Division or Section membership"

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