Light Turnout for 2012 SN Quals

[the ancient one]

I smell popcorn.

[edew]

Also, you cite documents. You site buildings.

I see what you did there.

[edew]

I moved from NJ to CA, and the local fencing scene made LESS sense.

Think about that one for a minute

Chris, I think NJ fencing is nonsensical only in the political sense. There's more creativity in nonsense here in CA.

[evaluna]

What would convince you that it's not an approved format for qualifiers? Perhaps a document (or two) stating a list of the only formats allowed for qualifiers?

You don't need to convince anyone of the benefits of fencing all places for events where the goal is a lot of bouts. That's great, and there is no problem. But those events are not qualifiers. Qualifiers need to be run to a stricter standard than "regular" local events.

I suspect people at the USFA have already taken notice - a number of them lurk here.

Dan

To tell you the truth Dan I'm one of those folks that (correctly or incorrectly) assumes that the people at the division are in compliance with the format they selected. How about one document from the USFA that states the decision to fence out all places on the tableau would render a qualifier invalid?

It's incredibly disappointing to think you've made it only to be told you have to fence a couple of more DE bouts and then get knocked out.

A few years ago I fenced a Div 2 qualifier, finishing in a tie for the 3rd qualifying spot, lost in the DE fence off by one touch, and then had to fence the Div 3 qualifier (determined completely by the pool results), where I lost the bout that kept me from qualifying by one touch (determined by a short strip rule). At that moment it was easy to wish the Northern California division had the same format as the Central California division, but it doesn't....

Hopefully those "lurking" individuals will take notice soon and enlighten us all.

[fencerX]

I see what you did there.

Incorrect. It's "I sight what you did there"

[catwood1]

Chris, I think NJ fencing is nonsensical only in the political sense. There's more creativity in nonsense here in CA.

Oddly enough, I actually agree with you 100%

[piste off]

I moved from NJ to CA, and the local fencing scene made LESS sense.

Think about that one for a minute

In CA the fault is with everyone. In NJ, it's always the other guy's fault.

[edew]

Incorrect. It's "I sight what you did there"

I didn't want someone to complain about me grammer.

[evaluna]

I didn't want someone to complain about me grammer.

That's okay... when I was in school my theatre teacher used to complain about my accent... which was subtle and difficult to place... but only took a few weeks of Shakespeare with a pencil under my tongue to correct. However, after a glass of wine I have been known to regress and start mispronouncing English every few sentences.

[telkanuru]

That's okay... when I was in school my theatre teacher used to complain about my accent... which was subtle and difficult to place... but only took a few weeks of Shakespeare with a pencil under my tongue to correct. However, after a glass of wine I have been known to regress and start mispronouncing English every few sentences.

Well, you already ride roughshod over the dictates of logic and grammar, so why fret about little things?

[telkanuru]

So sorry the fact English is my second language offends you.

Whoops! Missed this one! If you can't do it well, and you don't want to be taken to task for it, don't do it!

So sorry that my irritation at your complete lack of anything vaguely resembling a coherent or reasonable thought process offends you.

[fdad]

I moved from NJ to CA, and the local fencing scene made LESS sense.

Think about that one for a minute

NJ has been quite civil for the past couple of years. I am beginning to think you might have been the root cause.

[catwood1]

NJ has been quite civil for the past couple of years. I am beginning to think you might have been the root cause.

Seems possible. Unfortuantely, the crazy has been here in CA way longer than I've been here. :P

[mfp]

I suspect people at the USFA have already taken notice - a number of them lurk here.

To be fair to the Division, it's not like the USFA hasn't had plenty of time to take notice ...

For example, an official protest of a NorCal qualifier event was faxed and emailed to the USFA National Office and the NorCal division chair and secretary within the required three days following the process detailed in the Athlete's Manual ... back in 2008.

From what I've been told, the NorCal member who submitted the protest never heard back from the USFA NO or even the NorCal division about the protest. Perhaps Jefferies has some knowledge of what happened from it, if anything.

It might very well be that since a protest was filed and the NO didn't act, it was taken as a sign of approval of NorCal's procedures.

[edew]

Incorrect. It's "I sight what you did there"

*Sigh*

[edew]

NJ has been quite civil for the past couple of years. I am beginning to think you might have been the root cause.

As a test, Chris should move to Texas for a few years.

[KD5MDK]

Whoops! Missed this one! If you can't do it well, and you don't want to be taken to task for it, don't do it!

So sorry that my irritation at your complete lack of anything vaguely resembling a coherent or reasonable thought process offends you.

Over the line. Knock it off.

[KD5MDK]

As a test, Chris should move to Texas for a few years.

Unfortunately, all the Divisions in Texas are already crazy, we're just very quiet about it. I nominate New England Divison.

[edew]

Unfortunately, all the Divisions in Texas are already crazy, we're just very quiet about it. I nominate New England Divison.

How about the Philadelphia Division? Large enough to be a useful sample size, yet relatively sane.

[Peach]

How about the Philadelphia Division? Large enough to be a useful sample size, yet relatively sane.

Oh, no we're not.