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    MF Senior A - La Coruña, February 17-19, 2012




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    Excerpts from the FIS web site

    Everybody's attention is focused on the team competition this Sunday. It could finalize the qualification of the Italian MF team for London since after their victory in Paris they placed a heavy bet on the Olympic pass. With a good result in La Coruña the Italian team could celebrate the mathematical certainty of their Olympic qualification.

    Andrea Cassarà (#1), Giorgio Avola (#2), Valerio Aspromonte (#3), and Andrea Baldini (#4), together with Luca Simoncelli (#16) will fence directly in the tableau of 64 the second day.


    USA will have two fencers, Race Imboden (#8) and Alexander Massialas (#12) starting in the tableau of 64 the second day.


    Excerpts from FFE web site

    The French MF feel better since they are currently #3 in AOR for the qualifying race. However this is absolutely not the time to let go but to confirm this 3rd spot and begin to make an impression as a team. Victory is within reach of this very experienced team composed, as for the CIP, by Victor Sintès (#5), Erwan le Pechoux (#14), Marcel Marcilloux (#24), and Brice Guyart (#46). Sintès and le Pechoux will start in the tableau of 64 the second day.

    Click here for the road-map of France MF to La Coruña. Four fencers are fully funded, 8 are at their expense.

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    Updates from the FIS and FFE web sites.

    From the FIS

    Tableau of 64 (Italian fencers):

    Cassarà (ITA) - Li (CHN)
    Simoncelli (ITA) - Mocek (POL)
    Foconi (ITA) - Imboden (USA)
    Aspromonte (ITA) - Ichikawa (JPN)
    Baldini (ITA) - Hatoel (ISR)
    Minuto (ITA) - Lei (CHN)
    Luperi (ITA) - Daraban (ROU)
    Di Francisca (ITA) - Willette (USA)
    Barrera (ITA) - Ota (JPN)
    Avola (ITA) - Simon (FRA)


    From the FFE


    Maître Stéphane Marcelin lost one third of his troops today two of them, Guyart and Marcilloux, members of France foil team which will compete on Sunday.

    In T128, Brice Guyart and Marcel Marcilloux were eliminated by Daraban (ROU), 11-15 and Li (CHN) 14-15, respectively.

    Tableau of 64 (French fencers):

    Victor Sintès (FRA) - Oleg Drobyshev (RUS)
    Erwann le Pechoux (FRA) - Nontapan Panchat (THA)
    Jérémy Cadot (FRA) - Jun Zhu (CHN)
    Enzo Boris Lefort (FRA) - Jialuo Shi (CHN)
    Benoît Journey (FRA) - Radoslaw Glonek (POL)
    Julien Mertine (FRA) - Byung Chul Choi (KOR)
    Ghislain Perrier (FRA) - Alexander Massialas (USA)
    Vincent Simon (FRA) - Giorgio Avola (ITA)
    It is well to know something of the manners of various peoples, in order more sanely to judge our own, and that we do not think that everything against our modes is ridiculous, and against reason, as those who have seen nothing are accustomed to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gladius View Post
    Updates from the FIS and FFE web sites.

    From the FIS

    Tableau of 64 (Italian fencers):

    Cassarà (ITA) - Li (CHN)
    Simoncelli (ITA) - Mocek (POL)
    Foconi (ITA) - Imboden (USA)
    Aspromonte (ITA) - Ichikawa (JPN)
    Baldini (ITA) - Hatoel (ISR)
    Minuto (ITA) - Lei (CHN)
    Luperi (ITA) - Daraban (ROU)
    Di Francisca (ITA) - Willette (USA)
    Barrera (ITA) - Ota (JPN)
    Avola (ITA) - Simon (FRA)


    From the FFE


    Maître Stéphane Marcelin lost one third of his troops today two of them, Guyart and Marcilloux, members of France foil team which will compete on Sunday.

    In T128, Brice Guyart and Marcel Marcilloux were eliminated by Daraban (ROU), 11-15 and Li (CHN) 14-15, respectively.

    Tableau of 64 (French fencers):

    Victor Sintès (FRA) - Oleg Drobyshev (RUS)
    Erwann le Pechoux (FRA) - Nontapan Panchat (THA)
    Jérémy Cadot (FRA) - Jun Zhu (CHN)
    Enzo Boris Lefort (FRA) - Jialuo Shi (CHN)
    Benoît Journey (FRA) - Radoslaw Glonek (POL)
    Julien Mertine (FRA) - Byung Chul Choi (KOR)
    Ghislain Perrier (FRA) - Alexander Massialas (USA)
    Vincent Simon (FRA) - Giorgio Avola (ITA)
    Gotta wonder if FRA will keep Guyart for the team event...

    I'm picking Avola to win the individual event. Imboden and Sintes to medal.
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    Can we get the bracket maker up for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    Can we get the bracket maker up for this?
    Sorry, that's all I could find. The official web site for this event has not posted any updates (since last year )

    The USFA web site has even less info... but it has a nice Q&A with Race Imboden
    It is well to know something of the manners of various peoples, in order more sanely to judge our own, and that we do not think that everything against our modes is ridiculous, and against reason, as those who have seen nothing are accustomed to think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    Can we get the bracket maker up for this?
    There is now more info on the offical web page. Results up to 65 are posted as is the DE table of 128. Best as I can tell Meinhardt, Willette and Parkins got byes to 64. Dudley and Woo made it into 64. The rest didnot make it out of the 64s. I believe it ended as:
    Miles 68
    Goldstein 85
    Chang 96
    Getz 133
    Elkassas 137

    DE for 64 still not posted but you can get an idea by looking at the ranking out of the pools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    Gotta wonder if FRA will keep Guyart for the team event...

    I'm picking Avola to win the individual event. Imboden and Sintes to medal.
    I was way wrong. Cassara wins again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    I was way wrong. Cassara wins again.
    Must suck to be an Italian MF fencer other than Baldini, Cassara, Avola, Aspromonte... you could be 5th in the world and you still wouldn't go to the Olympics! Unless you spiked someone's water I guess. But that would never happen.

    I can see the final ranking on the FIE site, but is the tableau up anywhere yet?

    Surprised to see Le Pechoux in 2nd, and there are some other surprises there too. Willette is a good fencer but I don't know if he's done that well in a senior event before. Davis in the top 16 too. Yep, definitely gotta see that tableau

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    Quote Originally Posted by dramamine View Post
    Must suck to be an Italian MF fencer other than Baldini, Cassara, Avola, Aspromonte... you could be 5th in the world and you still wouldn't go to the Olympics! Unless you spiked someone's water I guess. But that would never happen.

    I can see the final ranking on the FIE site, but is the tableau up anywhere yet?

    Surprised to see Le Pechoux in 2nd, and there are some other surprises there too. Willette is a good fencer but I don't know if he's done that well in a senior event before. Davis in the top 16 too. Yep, definitely gotta see that tableau
    Baldini loses to Hatoel again in the 64. Ouch. Le pechoux is on an upward tangent since last season. Kruse is not. To see the tableau just hit table on the fie site.
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    If this continues, Baldini may not qualify for indiv Olympics again?

    In the battle of Russia, chereminisov takes out kovanski 15-0. How can he not score one single point against a guy he trains with all the time? I bet even DavidX could get one point on chereminisov. Ok, maybe not... I forgot Craig beat him 5-0 in 20 seconds.
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    The fie.org site has no mention of this event.

    Ok, apparently fie.ch has the results. I thought they were going to move everything to fie.org.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    The fie.org site has no mention of this event.
    At fie.ch you can find the final ranking in the results section.

    edit: and apparently the tableau. lol.

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    Lei Sheng beats luperi 15-3. Would like to see the pouting in that bout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dramamine View Post
    Must suck to be an Italian MF fencer other than Baldini, Cassara, Avola, Aspromonte...
    I agree... and results which would make normal people happy are never good enough!

    Excerpts from the FIS web site


    This success in La Coruna is the 21st in Andrea Cassarà career. With this victory Cassarà matches the winning record in world cups held by Salvatore Sanzo.

    "Now the goal is to go past him," says the 2011 world champion. "But I'm in no hurry because I've plenty of time and there are many competitions ahead. For now I enjoy the pleasure of these victories. I know that the objective is in London in July, but I don't like to lose!"

    In the final he beat le Pechoux (FRA) 15-10. In the semifinal he beat his team mate Valerio Aspromonte 15-11 who finished third.

    "I was expecting something more," said Stefano Cerioni, Italian Foil CT. "This evaluation does not include Andrea Cassarà and Valerio Aspromonte who had an excellent performance. Both expressed their best fencing. Aspromonte after a tense beginning could free himself and win also difficult bouts all the way to the end. Andrea Baldini and Giorgio Avola on the other hand cannot loosen up and get over the tension. I wish that in the next competitions they too can return to express the great technical potential they have."

    Tomorrow in the team event a good result will give the mathematical assurance of the London qualification. The team will be Andrea Cassarà, Andrea Baldini, Valerio Aspromonte, and Giorgio Avola. Italy's first match will be against the winner between Brazil and Iran.



    From the FFE web site


    MF in La Coruna: a beautiful 2nd place for Erwann le Pechoux


    Erwann le Pechoux bows to Andrea Cassarà 10-15.

    The big right-handed Italian dominates the beginnings of this season and not only because of his size (6' 4") but also with his talent. After his win at CIP he nails his second consecutive victory in La Coruna in the world cup circuit.

    In the final, towered by Cassarà, 8.7" shorter to be exact, Erwann le Pechoux did well! In their last bout together at the Shanghai GP in May 2011, it was the French who won 15-13.

    Erwann will have possibly the chance to test few secret moves on the Italian tomorrow in the team event. To reach the final where Italy should get without too much difficulty, France should beat the winner between Spain - Egypt, and then Russia or Ukraine.

    Currently in third place, France MF team would be qualified for London. In fact it is the only French team with a qualification, at this point, for London.

    The team put together by maître Marcelin (Sintès, le Pechoux, Guyart, and Marcilloux) must keep this third spot come what may.

    Denis Goran


    Complete results on the FIE web site
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    So how does Willette's 12th place finish plus Miles' below 64th place finish affect the rankings at the top end of MF for the fourth slot in the MFT event? With Massialas clearly now in the lead and Imboden in second, Meinhardt's top-32 finish also helps him some to secure a spot on the team. The question is who's going to be the fourth man.
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    I think he meant the big LEFT handed Italian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
    I think he meant the big LEFT handed Italian.
    You are correct, Cassarà is left-handed...





    ... but on the FIE athlete's page he is indicated as right-handed

    Andrea CASSARA
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    03.01.1984
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    It is well to know something of the manners of various peoples, in order more sanely to judge our own, and that we do not think that everything against our modes is ridiculous, and against reason, as those who have seen nothing are accustomed to think.
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    He could be right-handed for everything, but just fences left-handed. You know, just to give his opponents a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edew View Post
    So how does Willette's 12th place finish plus Miles' below 64th place finish affect the rankings at the top end of MF for the fourth slot in the MFT event? With Massialas clearly now in the lead and Imboden in second, Meinhardt's top-32 finish also helps him some to secure a spot on the team. The question is who's going to be the fourth man.
    Actually, Miles is still ahead of Gerek, but David is now very close to pushing Gerek from 4th to 5th.

    Current USFA Men's Foil Team Points:

    Massialas, Alexander
    Sr-A, Seoul, KOR, 5/22/11 (SF=2) 3 2040
    Sr-A, Havana, CUB, 6/18/11 (SF=2) 15 1212
    Sr-A, Sr. World Champs., Catania, ITA, 10/13/11 (SF=2) 23 768
    NAC December, 13 515
    NAC January, 3 850
    Sr-A, Paris, FRA, 1/28/12 (SF=2) 3 2040
    Sr-A, Coruña, ESP, 2/17/12 (SF=2) 7 1656
    9081

    Imboden, Race
    Sr-A, Shanghai, CHN, 5/6/11 (SF=2) 41 252 #
    Sr-A, St. Petersburg, RUS, 6/6/11 (SF=2) 16 1200
    Sr-A, Sr. World Champs., Catania, ITA, 10/13/11 (SF=2) 8 1644
    NAC December, 1 1000
    NAC January, 1 1000
    Sr-A, Paris, FRA, 1/28/12 (SF=2) 3 2040
    Sr-A, Coruña, ESP, 2/17/12 (SF=2) 19 816
    7952

    Chamley-Watson, Miles
    Sr-A, Havana, CUB, 6/18/11 (SF=2) 36 272 ##
    Sr-A, Shanghai, CHN, 5/6/11 (SF=2) 33 284 #
    Sr-A, Seoul, KOR, 5/22/11 (SF=2) 10 1272
    Sr-A, St. Petersburg, RUS, 6/6/11 (SF=2) 9 1284
    NAC December, 7 690
    NAC January, 10 530
    Sr-A, Paris, FRA, 1/28/12 (SF=2) 24T 728
    5060

    Meinhardt, Gerek
    Sr-A, St. Petersburg, RUS, 6/6/11 (SF=2) 34 280 #
    Sr-A, Seoul, KOR, 5/22/11 (SF=2) 34 280 #
    Sr-A, Sr. World Champs., Catania, ITA, 10/13/11 (SF=2) 13 1236
    NAC December, 3 850
    NAC January, 2 920
    Sr-A, Coruña, ESP, 2/17/12 (SF=2) 22 780
    4346

    Willette, David
    Sr-A, Shanghai, CHN, 5/6/11 (SF=2) 16 1200
    Sr-A, Seoul, KOR, 5/22/11 (SF=2) 53 204 #
    Sr-A, St. Petersburg, RUS, 6/6/11 (SF=2) 35 276 #
    NAC December, 3 850
    NAC January, 17 350
    Sr-A, Coruña, ESP, 2/17/12 (SF=2) 12 1248
    4128

    Based on ...
    Sum of Group I and Group II
    Group I – Sum of TWO highest points at 1-4
    1. NAC Division I: December 2011
    2. NAC Division I: January 2012
    3. Division I National Championships: April 2012 (weight value 1.2)
    4. Competitions specified in item 5-6 below if not included in Group II sum.
    Group II – Sum of the FIVE highest points earned at 5-6
    5. April 29, 2011 – April 1, 2012: All Senior World Cup and Grand Prix Competitions
    (Maximum of TWO 33-64 results considered in Group II point calculations)
    6. 2011World Championships (Top 32 results)

    The following 2 FIE Events remain before the selection deadline:
    Coupe Ville de Venise Venise ITA 03.03.12 04.03.12 F M S GP Ind.
    Löwe von Bonn Bonn GER 16.03.12 17.03.12 F M S A Ind.
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    Thanks, 'dad.
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