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up that training!! okay I am trying out div1 championships in a few months and I need some critique on my training schedule.
I am limited to certain things because I am a college student and I have a job. Here is what I do
Monday Wed and friday: half of an hour of footwork, half an hour of high cardio(running/speed.incline)and hitting a fencing dummy for about 20 minutes. weights for 15 minutes
tuesday and thursday: fencing practice around 2 hours and hitting dummy.
Saturday:hour of drills and footwork. and lessons
My question is how to improve my schedule. The girls there are going to be top and I don't want to strike out my first time. I can't fence more because of work.
suggestions?
tips?
thanks in advance for any help
Last edited by shantelikes 2 fence; 01-31-2012 at 02:37 PM.
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 Originally Posted by shantelikes 2 fence  okay I am trying out div1 championships in a few months and I need some critique on my training schedule.
I am limited to certain things because I am a college student and I have a job. Here is what I do
Monday Wed and friday: half of an hour of footwork, half an hour of high cardio(running/speed.incline)and hitting a fencing dummy for about 20 minutes. weights for 15 minutes
tuesday and thursday: fencing practice around 2 hours and hitting dummy.
Saturday:hour of drills and footwork
My question is how to improve my schedule. The girls there are going to be top and I don't want to strike out my first time. I can't fence more because of work.
suggestions?
tips?
thanks in advance for any help Do you have points? Or qualified from last year's SN? Without them, no amount of training will get you there in few months... I think.
Last edited by KidLazy; 01-31-2012 at 02:40 PM.
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I'd reverse your M-W-F and T-T schedules. If you are going to be competing at the DIVI level, you probably should already be in shape, so the cardio and weights may not be as necessary, but bouting would be. What about one-on-one lessons? What level of fencer do you bout with? DIVI caliber? OK, C and below, meh, not so much.
Not sure what you mean by 'strike out' your first time. 0-5 in the pools? Meh, probably you won't. Top 64, maybe. Top 16, well, maybe next year.
Keep plugging away and good luck!
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last year summer nationals
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You need to be drilling the 5 P's of fencing:
Point in Line
Pris de fer
Parry
Preperation
and Point in Line
Sincerely,
Patches O'Hoolahan FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WON'T YOU BUY MY TACTICAL WHEEL!!!????
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Originally Posted by shantelikes 2 fence last year summer nationals What about 'last year summer nationals'? Not that you really need to share what kind of results you had, or if you made it to them, but at least you can set a goal to do better. You just have to have a realistic assessment of what you did right and what didn't work so well. Reinforce the former by continuing to do that and improve the latter by seeking advice/coaching on how to fix it and then practice it until it becomse second nature. And then go find something else to work on.
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper You need to be drilling the 5 P's of fencing:
Point in Line
Pris de fer
Parry
Preperation
and Point in Line
Sincerely,
Patches O'Hoolahan I've heard of people limiting their salt intake, but I thought it's ok to over-pepper your dish.
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Originally Posted by edew I've heard of people limiting their salt intake, but I thought it's ok to over-pepper your dish. And without further edew, let me introduce spelling nazi. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WON'T YOU BUY MY TACTICAL WHEEL!!!????
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Originally Posted by Mergs What about 'last year summer nationals'?. I believe last year's summer nationals was her answer to how she qualified for this year's Div I championships. Top-4 of Div II championships are autos for the next Div I champs.
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I am a big proponent of training periodization. 2 months is a little shorter than would be ideal for a cycle, but it's doable.
Period 1:
There should be a heavy emphasis on footwork and conditioning. Building leg strength, and proper form on the footwork should be your two main goals.
Period 2:
Taper the strength-building. Conditioning should focus more on strength maintenance and endurance. Footwork focus should be more focused on dynamic, bout-like actions. Technical bladework drills.
Period 3:
Maintain fitness. Taper footwork. Lots of drilling, and controlled bouting.
Period 4:
Maintain fitness/footwork. Taper drilling. Heavy emphasis on bouting.
Period 5:
Taper everything. Light practice, mostly bouting.
Compete!
Accelerating through this, I'd say spend about 2 weeks each on periods 1-4, 1 rest week, and you're ready to go.
That's only a rough outline, and by no means is perfect, but I think it's much more important that you plan out your week-to-week schedule/objectives than it is to outline the perfect weekly routine.
And, of course, when it comes to practice, quality is much more important than quantity. Especially if you're time-crunched, really make sure you're focused on what you're doing. Half-assing your way through an hour of footwork isn't going to do anything to help your fencing, but 10 minutes of intense, focused practice can.
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper And without further edew, let me introduce spelling nazi. The 'n' in 'Nazi' is capitalized.  Use the Shift key, people! Keyboard manufacturers everywhere are ineffably saddened when you ignore what they made just for you!
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Originally Posted by Inquartata The 'n' in 'Nazi' is capitalized. They don't deserve it.
But if we were talking about Marxists, then das kapitalization would be OK. "Some people are born great fencers, some people achieve fencing greatness, and some people have it thrust upon them."
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What weapon do you fence? And what do you mean by "high cardio"?
If you're running for 30 minutes non-stop you're not simulating fencing.
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Originally Posted by Inquartata The 'n' in 'Nazi' is capitalized. Thanks for the edewcation. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WON'T YOU BUY MY TACTICAL WHEEL!!!????
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Agree with others in this thread--why high-cardio running? Fencing is anerobic, not aerobic. Sprint interval training would be a better choice than endurance-running because you have the same start-stop intervals as parallels the bout-halt intervals of fencing.
Are you lifting weights at this point? What are you doing nutritionally-speaking to prepare for your events? (Please don't say carb-loading. Please?)
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Please?  Use the Shift key, people! Keyboard manufacturers everywhere are ineffably saddened when you ignore what they made just for you!
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my reason for an intense run was because I had a lot of indurance issues the farther I got in competition. So I was working on that but sprints is a good idea. As far as food goes I am not the best when it comes to that. I am not really sure what I should be eating for training.
I am also weight lifiting. Pretty much every other day. Focus is on core, legs and light arms.
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Originally Posted by fencerX I believe last year's summer nationals was her answer to how she qualified for this year's Div I championships. Top-4 of Div II championships are autos for the next Div I champs. I thought it was top 4 div2 qualified for div 1a national champs.
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