Historical Swordmanship to Sabre?

[Nevermore1]

Hi, I wanted to find out if anyone can help with a question for my daughter. She is currently in a preparatory historical swordmanship class and really likes the rapier but doesn't like the use of the dagger with it. She is debating whether or not she wants to try sport fencing or not. I can't remember where but it seems I read that for individuals who like the rapier that the sabre is similar to it. Can anyone provide any input as to whether or not they are similar or if foil or epee would be a better consideration? I am considering just having her taking the intro sport fencing class since I believe that covers all 3 (but focuses primarily on foil). She is 14 and has been taking classes for about 3 months. Thanks in advance.

[Allen Evans]

They are in no way similar, at least the way they are normally taught. If she likes historical rapier play, epee would be closer to what she's doing now (depending on the "school" of rapier being taught).

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[Inquartata]

I concur with Allen---and I say that as an inveterate advocate for sabre and "enemy" of epee. Yes, rapier ( well, most of them ) did have edges, and they were sometimes used for cutting, but the point was really the focus of its use. Epee is much closer to that than sabre is.

The footwork is also going to be similar to what she's doing, although linear, of course. Sabre is a lot faster-moving and requires more energy.

Have her look at some bouts on Youtube to get an idea what the various weapons are like, idiom-wise.

[wdragon007]

To echo what was said above, epee comes the closest to rapier play. At least according to my historical swordplay friends. That said, get her (if possible) to try out all three weapons for a short period at a local club -- just because she likes rapiers doesn't mean she won't gravitate toward sabre or foil. She might actually enjoy them more but the only real way is to try them all out.

[Ken Mondschein]

Épée. Though she should still do footwork/exercise her off-side. (I even give off-hand lessons sometimes.)

[Nevermore1]

Thanks to everyone. I have been trying to get her to her classes a little early so she can watch some of the other students and see what they are doing. I may sign her up for the introductory sport fencing class which is supposed to introduce all 3 (foil, sabre and epee). We have a good friend that is thinking of taking it with her as well. I mainly want her to do whichever she prefers and enjos the most. I figure there's no point in her doing it if she's not having fun as well.