A few point-in-line questions

[jeff]

I hear that there was a PIL call made a few years ago that everyone agreed with, but only one light was involved.

[erik_blank]

I hear that there was a PIL call made a few years ago that everyone agreed with, but only one light was involved.

Was it called for the fencer that did NOT have the light on the machine?

[foibles]

Isn't PIL what Luke used to aim his photo torpedo into the air shaft of the Death Star?

Nope. Pil impacted on the surface.

The one that got through was AiP.

[erik_blank]

Nope. Pil impacted on the surface.

The one that got through was AiP.

No, NO, No, the AiP was illegally performed by an OBSERVER (H. Solo) who somehow manager to avoid the black card and was through some strange twist of fate awarded a medal anyway at the end of the competition.... How this was worked out in the paperwork is beyond me....

[touchefriend]

Check out some of the video footage of Golubitsky fencing foil and you will see that he gets PiL (sometimes) I think in a bout against Zenarro

[hippo]

You may be horrified to hear that you know someone who won an epee national championship while wearing (very, very) colorful socks and a bandana. A bandana with skulls on it.

Did this epee national championship happen to take place at the Special Olympics?

[edew]

You may be horrified to hear that you know someone who won an epee national championship while wearing (very, very) colorful socks and a bandana. A bandana with skulls on it.

Did she? Good for her!

[haroldbuck]

Great. Everyone can make snarky comments about point in line. Can anyone at least attempt to give an answer for (2) in the original post?

[Purple Fencer]

Great. Everyone can make snarky comments about point in line. Can anyone at least attempt to give an answer for (2) in the original post?

A establishes first...touch for A (presuming nothing happens that removes his PIL).

[rudd]

Great. Everyone can make snarky comments about point in line. Can anyone at least attempt to give an answer for (2) in the original post?

You're right this requires a different snarky comment.

Who fencers ambling into each other with PIL should really consider if fencing is for them.

Less snarky but no less ridiculous. The point goes to the person who first established the line.

[Goldgar]

Great. Everyone can make snarky comments about point in line. Can anyone at least attempt to give an answer for (2) in the original post?

My opinion -- just an opinion, mind you -- is that it doesn't matter who established PIL first, since they both had it. I see it as follows:

1. If one fencer (call her X) was stationary or moving backward, and fencer Y advanced or lunged onto X's point in line, then touch for X.

2. If both fencers moved forward -- "meandered" -- onto the other's PIL, then it's simultaneous stupid attacks, and no touch.

[mrbiggs]

A establishes first...touch for A (presuming nothing happens that removes his PIL).

What is this based on?


IIRC (and I may not) the last time this question was asked on this forum the answer was that neither fencer gets the touch. This seems to be to be supported by the rulebook, as it only mentions that point in line has right of way against an attack that started after the line was established.

In a practical sense I don't think it's a big deal either way though; it's not a touch you're going to see very often at all.

[Foil.Leicester]

Great. Everyone can make snarky comments about point in line. Can anyone at least attempt to give an answer for (2) in the original post?

"Offence Against the Publicity Code" which is group 3, so red cards for both, then black if they do it again?

[Inquartata]

Answer would be dead easy if the OP had called them fencers X and Y instead of A and B, as X is like the red-shirted crewman on Star trek landing parties.