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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    True. NCAA Regionals and Championships frequently conflict with Senior World Cups. It will be interesting to see how many top fencers, in the year or two after the Olympics choose NCAA events instead of World Cups. Teams with competitive seniors need depth. Will recruiting be negatively impacted by having a top senior on the roster (I will never fence with them in front of me, I will go elsewhere)?
    Well, it doesn't seem to have affected MF at UND--they have enough starters for all the NCAA programs combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    Well, it doesn't seem to have affected MF at UND--they have enough starters for all the NCAA programs combined.
    True, it does not impact the recruiting of competitive fencers, in fact I think it helps. Just look at this years cluster of weapons disciplines at certain schools. I think in order to stay sharp programs that recruit those on the international track will need to have stablemates that challenge them. Most good teams will have a number of interchangeable pieces so the fall off isn't that great when a fencer drops out to do a WC versus an NCAA regional/championship. ND & PSU seem to handle that situation well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indypacers View Post
    True, it does not impact the recruiting of competitive fencers, in fact I think it helps. Just look at this years cluster of weapons disciplines at certain schools. I think in order to stay sharp programs that recruit those on the international track will need to have stablemates that challenge them. Most good teams will have a number of interchangeable pieces so the fall off isn't that great when a fencer drops out to do a WC versus an NCAA regional/championship. ND & PSU seem to handle that situation well.
    On the other hand, the past few years it's hurt Columbia pretty significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    No, that is not Greg's strategy. The idea is for Turner and Alex to get a great education, while staying close to their coach. Part of that plan is a deal (at least for Alex) to fence all necessary World Cups regardless of NCAA "obligations." Stanford will need quite a few more quality fencers in many weapons before seriously challenging for the NCAA overall championship.
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    I'm planning on posting an updated summary of all of the names/schools next week right before I leave for the JOs. So if anyone has any further names, please post them here by Tuesday of next week. Please post full names (not just first initials), school, and weapon.

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    As promised, here's the latest summary of which fencers may be attending which colleges this coming fall. In March this list will expand greatly as the regular crop of college acceptances are sent out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catwood1 View Post
    At this rate, Greg Massialas might single handedly return Stanford fencing to NOT being an afterthought. Impressive...
    Stanford fencing is already pretty good

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    Quote Originally Posted by brak View Post
    Stanford fencing is already pretty good
    ... right ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauler View Post
    ... right ...
    ME: Kevin Mo, Jake Harbour, Kian Ameli? They can all beat you any day of the week
    MF: Turner Caldwell who is awesome, and Jonathan Lee is pretty good too
    WE: Francessa Bassa

    It's not Princeton or Ohio State but it's a respectable program

    They just need to have one or two good recruiting years and their program is gonna be looking very good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brak View Post
    ME: Kevin Mo, Jake Harbour, Kian Ameli? They can all beat you any day of the week
    MF: Turner Caldwell who is awesome, and Jonathan Lee is pretty good too
    WE: Francessa Bassa

    It's not Princeton or Ohio State but it's a respectable program

    They just need to have one or two good recruiting years and their program is gonna be looking very good.
    Of the four teams in the Western Region, they are good. In any other region they'd be below average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    Of the four teams in the Western Region, they are good. In any other region they'd be below average.
    In the Midwest they would surely be better than Northwestern, and their men's epee and men's foil would really give OSU and ND a hard time

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    Quote Originally Posted by brak View Post
    In the Midwest they would surely be better than Northwestern, and their men's epee and men's foil would really give OSU and ND a hard time
    Surely.

    Western Invitational
    01/07/12 at Air Force Colorado Springs, Colo.
    Northwestern vs. Stanford W, 25-2

    Midwest Invitational
    SUNDAY FEBRUARY 5TH, 2012

    OSU-STAN
    Foil: 6-3
    Epee: 5-4
    Sabre: 8-1
    Total: 19-8

    ND-STAN
    Foil: 4-5
    Epee: 3-6
    Sabre: 8-1
    Total:15-12
    Last edited by fdad; 02-16-2012 at 12:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    Surely.

    Western Invitational
    01/07/12 at Air Force Colorado Springs, Colo.
    Northwestern vs. Stanford W, 25-2
    Well i'll admit, their women's team is trash but their men's team has some very good individual fencers

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    Quote Originally Posted by brak View Post
    Well i'll admit, their women's team is trash but their men's team has some very good individual fencers
    I am sure they have a better Men's team than all the other non-existant Men's teams. But I wouldn't call their Women's team trash either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdad View Post
    Surely.

    Western Invitational
    01/07/12 at Air Force Colorado Springs, Colo.
    Northwestern vs. Stanford W, 25-2

    Midwest Invitational
    SUNDAY FEBRUARY 5TH, 2012

    OSU-STAN
    Foil: 6-3
    Epee: 5-4
    Sabre: 8-1
    Total: 19-8

    ND-STAN
    Foil: 4-5
    Epee: 3-6
    Sabre: 8-1
    Total:15-12
    You're feeding a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pillow View Post
    You're feeding a troll.
    They almost beat OSU in ME, and they beat ND in ME and in MF. You're right, the team overall isn't very good, it was my mistake to have set that, but the ME and MF teams for Stanford are very good

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    You still have to establish whether OSU and ND were using their primary starters or the people that need bouts for regionals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdawg2121 View Post
    You still have to establish whether OSU and ND were using their primary starters or the people that need bouts for regionals.
    thats also true

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