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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by migopod View Post
    If by "your stupid" and "your wrong" you actually mean "you're stupid" and "you're wrong" I think you're confusing possessive pronouns with verbs.
    I think I'm 14 and couldn't care less. I'm not sure if you're familiar with how teenagers type on the internet nowadays but that is it. U better b glad i didnt type like this
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    we shuld all type liek tht tbqh

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    Could be worse... b4c|< 1n ///y d4y p30p73 +yp3d 71k3 +h15... Granted when I were but a pup of 14 people were doing that sort of thing on BBSs since virtually nobody had teh internets in their home. I am pleased however that Mr Foil Luver "couldn't care less", since use of "could care less" is ubiquitous and seriously annoying. So kudos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by migopod View Post
    I am pleased however that Mr Foil Luver "couldn't care less", since use of "could care less" is ubiquitous and seriously annoying. So kudos!
    What I find annoying is the misuse of the word "momentarily". You might even say that I could care less bout it.

    Then again, the English language is full of things that annoy me, so I actively try to not get annoyed anymore just to save my sanity.
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    I get annoyed by pretentious people getting annoyed by bad grammar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OROD View Post
    What I find annoying is the misuse of the word "momentarily". You might even say that I could care less bout it.

    Then again, the English language is full of things that annoy me, so I actively try to not get annoyed anymore just to save my sanity.
    Momentarily is a new one to me. Literally on the other hand I literally hear people misusing constantly. It literally makes me kill people and bury them in my back yard when they misuse literally. And by literally I do mean please don't tell the FBI to come around with ground penetrating radar even momentarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foil-luver View Post
    I think I'm 14 and couldn't care less. I'm not sure if you're familiar with how teenagers type on the internet nowadays but that is it. U better b glad i didnt type like this


    ...But seriously, though, if you're going to try to say bad grammar is okay because of your age, that's just not cool. Sure, we all have poor grammar skills until we learn/practice them enough, but there's no need to get snippety because someone happens to disagree with you. It's just the way the internet works *shrug*.


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    Idk, I don't think there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I get annoyed by pretentious people getting annoyed by bad grammar.
    U meen grammer, rite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by migopod View Post
    Could be worse... b4c|< 1n ///y d4y p30p73 +yp3d 71k3 +h15... Granted when I were but a pup of 14 people were doing that sort of thing on BBSs since virtually nobody had teh internets in their home. I am pleased however that Mr Foil Luver "couldn't care less", since use of "could care less" is ubiquitous and seriously annoying. So kudos!
    Oh, I saw this on reddit the other day...

    Let me just weigh in as a linguist (just an MA though, but it's enough for this issue):
    "could give a damn" is perfectly grammatical English, it just follows linguistic rules that edit: non-experts don't know about (and weren't taught in school).
    edit: There are linguistic items that exist in quite a few languages called Negative Polarity Items (NPI's). They're a pretty hot topic in certain areas of syntax and especially semantics, and they are not straightforward when it comes to interpreting the meaning of sentences containing them.
    "give a damn" is an NPI, and is thus not equivalent to other elements in English for which it is a bit more straightforward to determine sentence-level meaning.
    edit: I don't have time to get into a whole lot of details (but see below . I'm really just posting in case someone wants to look into the matter and learn more about language--I am not trying to one-up you or say your correction is ridiculous (lots of people have misconceptions about technical aspects of language, including most high school English teachers, ironically).

    NPI's are things like "any", "give a damn/****/care", "a single bit", "at all", etc. The short (and not entirely correct) story about them is that they have to show up in negative contexts or in questions.
    So "Not a single **** was given" is fine, or "I don't give a ****", or "do I look like I give a ****?", but not "I gave a **** yesterday" (unless you are intentionally playing with words).
    Similarly: I don't have any money. Do you have any money? But not: "I have any money".
    The key thing to notice is that you don't simply interpret them positively when they are not negated. For most NPI's, they simply no longer build grammatical sentences.
    Some, however, seem to retain their negation even in the absence of overt negation. This is what is happening when someone says "I could give a damn". There are many possible explanations for this. One I just thought of off of the top of my head is that we're dealing with a subjunctive mood (i.e. unreal, like "I wish I were taller") that is not otherwise marked.
    That would mean that "I could care less" is essentially saying "(as if) I could care less!".
    Or, NPI's might always contain inherent negation, and there might be other reasons why other classes of NPI don't allow the NPI to stand alone as a negative.
    Or some other explanation. This isn't my field exactly--I worked with a professor who works on NPI's, which is why I know the basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by foil-luver View Post
    I think I'm 14 and couldn't care less. I'm not sure if you're familiar with how teenagers type on the internet nowadays but that is it. U better b glad i didnt type like this
    And yet, you have the potential. I mean, you actually said 'couldn't care less'. If I had a dime for every supposedly literate person who thinks 'could care less' is the proper construction, I'd have, well, an awful lot of dimes...

    Still, 'this is how everyone I know does it these days' isn't a great justification. I mean, you may have heard the famous mother's saying about whether you'd jump off a cliff simply because all of your friends were doing it.
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    You really enjoy linking two really disparate things. Manner of speech to jumping off cliffs... Getting a lip ring to joining Heaven's Gate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inquartata View Post
    And yet, you have the potential. I mean, you actually said 'couldn't care less'. If I had a dime for every supposedly literate person who thinks 'could care less' is the proper construction, I'd have, well, an awful lot of dimes...

    Still, 'this is how everyone I know does it these days' isn't a great justification. I mean, you may have heard the famous mother's saying about whether you'd jump off a cliff simply because all of your friends were doing it.
    If by jumping off of a cliff you mean cliff jumping, as in the extreme sport, then maybe I would, it seems cool. If by jumping off of a cliff you mean killing myself...well...then...I'd rather not. As for the grammer issue, that's just how I am used to typing when I am on the internet, mostly because I'm on facebook too much. I know it's a bad habit but a dropped apostrophe isn't going to kill anyone...literally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    You really enjoy linking two really disparate things. Manner of speech to jumping off cliffs... Getting a lip ring to joining Heaven's Gate...
    Definition of ANALOGY
    1
    : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will probably agree in others
    2
    a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : similarity

    b : comparison based on such resemblance

    Did your education really not encompass such basic ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by foil-luver View Post
    ...a dropped apostrophe isn't going to kill anyone...literally.
    So, when the crane operator putting up the billboard slipped...
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